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Potsdamer Kickers

I'm currently updating football club articles in Brandenburg and came to the Potsdamer Kickers article in the process. I can't find any indication that this club is notable in any form, never having played above tier seven Landeliga level it seems. As the creator could you let me know what its notability is before I nominate it for deletion? I looked in the links but its pretty much orphaned as well. Thanks, Calistemon (talk) 08:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Calistemon, I created this article a long time ago and thought it was pretty cool that they had never been relegated. Whether or not that was grounds for notability, I do not know. Times have changed a lot! Anyway, the women's team competed in the 2013–14 DFB-Pokal der Frauen, which should qualify for notability. I have added a wikilink to the club in said article. Have a nice weekend! Jared Preston (talk) 10:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, the DFB-Pokal participation of the women's team settles the notability question. I know what you mean, sometimes I look back at an article and wonder why I bothered creating it! Have a good time, Calistemon (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you would be so kind as to add a short section to the article (something like "Women's football team") along those lines. I'm really not up to standards on footie articles of late, spending way too much time on tennis biographies and statistics. Having said that, what with the zillions of footballers qualifying for notability, there's a lot to be done in this field too. I'm very thankful that you've taken time to clean-up and update some of my older articles, especially here about the clubs. That's very kind. German football is so cool, a great atmosphere for any fan, and the action of lower league football in and around Berlin and Brandenburg is some of the best I've ever seen. If it wasn't for the fact that I don't live there any more, or my strange hours at work, then I'd love to be back on the pitch or visiting the stadium or Sportplatz every Saturday. Jumpers for goalposts! :) What actually got you interested in German football, if I may be so curious? Jared Preston (talk) 13:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Like you I don't live there anymore and only support my local team, FC Augsburg from a (very long) distance. The only time I ever get back to Germany seems to be during the summer break and I have not seen my favourite club play since 1995! The task of cleaning up all the club articles in Germany is daunting, there is so many. I have previously focused only on Southern Germanh, because of time constraints but doing a boring night shift on a remote mine in Western Australia has given me a bit of spare time. Calistemon (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hungarian spelling

Here it is listed as Csöregi on the Twitter page of the Hungarian Tennis Association. I think we should stick to this. here Keroks (talk) 06:12, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A colleague over at Wikidata also found this news article with the "Csöregi" spelling. Jared Preston (talk) 11:28, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lina Gjorcheska

Hi, I'm not sure about this, but should her surname be written as Lina Ǵorčeska? If you put her name in Cyrillic into google translate Лина Ѓорческа, it comes up with that form of spelling when it is romanised. Not too sure about this though as there isn't much information about the letters. Keroks (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not only because all sources spell her name "Gjorcheska", if you see the Wikipedia article "Romanization of Macedonian", it seems that the letter Ѓ can be transliterated as GJ. So it seems the usual spelling as per WTA/ITF et al. is fine. Jared Preston (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tournament flagicons

Hi Jared, just a gentle reminder that flagicons should only be used for players and not for tournament locations (per WP:Tennis and MOS guidelines). Keep up the good work. --Wolbo (talk) 16:53, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support in updating ITF player articles to comply with WP:MOSICON. There have been several discussions in the past on the proper use of flagicons in articles, and debates on that topic pop up with some regularity. This shows points of contention still exist regarding their usage but there is a broad consensus that they should not be used for (tournament) locations, even if some sources, such as the ITF website, use them for that purpose. Almost all player articles on the WTA/ATP level have already been cleaned-up so I was surprised to see that so many ITF player articles still use them. If we comply with this part of the guidelines we have a stronger position in any future discussions on using flagicons for the representative nationality of players; it will at least show we are not flagicon-fetishists. --Wolbo (talk) 14:50, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata parameters

Hey, Jared. How do I add birth place and birth name to the list of Wikidata parameters for a given profile? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dirtlawyer1: Hi, under "Statements" click "add". In the left hand box you then see "property" where you can either type date of birth, or the property number P569 and then on the right hand side add what is known of the date (i.e. just the year, or the month and year, or the full date) and press save. With "birth name" (P1477), you add the full name given to the person at birth, and where the language box shows up underneath, add their native language. If the person is Russian, for example, you'd give the whole name (including patronymic) and specify Russian. Again, all you need to do is hit "save". Hope that helps. If you want be to do any particular edit for you on a Wikidata item, just specify what and where. Jared Preston (talk) 17:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Jared. I'm not trying to do anything fancy, just get the basic datapoints down on the Wikidata profiles before the persondata templates get removed. A lot of folks bought into persondata for the last 5 or 6 years, and it would be a shame to see all of that work wasted by simply removing it without any real effort to transfer significant and accurate data like fullnames, maiden names, married names and birthplaces. Is there any plan to do another Wikidata bot run to pick up newly entered persondata brief descriptions, etc., since the last bot run? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea who runs what bot when and how, but a lot of work is also done semi-automatically by users such as you and I, too. As for maiden names, only rarely have I seen those detailed with persondata's "alternative names", so that obviously has to be added manually. I see you have already been busy adding aliases of maiden names today already! Jared Preston (talk) 18:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

More married names than maiden names. I've spent a lot of time working with American college athletes and Olympic swimmers from the English-speaking countries over the last several years, and invariably women athletes in their late teens and early 20s are widely known by their maiden names, but most later get married (some more than once). Those are the accurate name variants I'm keen to preserve. I've also noticed that whether the birth place has been imported into Wikidata is rather hit-and-miss. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Jared, here's an example of what the Wikidata-persondata transfer bot missed in the last article I just edited: [1]: occupation, birth place, updated brief description, full name. The transfer bot is leaving behind a lot of perfectly accurate and usable information. I just transferred all of that data manually to Wikidata. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

why you moved it back?

hey man, it's al sUbah. We don't say sAbah. Sabah is a lady's name . Khaleejian (talk) 07:38, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Funny how he's been known by that name all of his life until you came along and moved the page. Jared Preston (talk) 13:31, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Navay Asatid (album)

Hello Jared Preston. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Navay Asatid (album), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: the artist Alireza Eftekhari has an article, so WP:CSD#A9 does not aply. Album may not be notable - consider PROD or AfD. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 10:02, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnCD: your call. Note that the article has since been blanked by one of the prolific Iranian spammers. Jared Preston (talk) 13:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WikiData question

Hey, Jared. My Wikidata interface previously displayed English, French and Spanish language input fields in the top section of article profiles, and I was using all three for input data. I have accidentally screwed something up, and now it is only displaying English language data fields. How do I restore the French and Spanish fields? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dirtlawyer1: I never had any luck by setting the languages in "Preferences" by Wikidata, which is the reason why I created a babel box. I'd suggest you do the same. Maybe it's some sort of javascript problem, a Mediawiki bug has been affecting many bots, especially here on Wikipedia the last few days, but I guess that's not it either... Have you heard of LabelLister? This tool is very, very useful for adding/editing labels/descriptions/aliases in any language. You can activate it as a gadget and I don't know what I'd do without it! Jared Preston (talk) 12:29, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Jared. I activated the LabelLister gadget in my preferences, but nothing happened. I tinkered with the language preferences some more, and then I got Spanish and French labels to re-appear (minus the Chinese, which was previously present). Not sure exactly what I did, but it seems the gadget somehow interacts with the main language preferences. Works for me, but I'm not sure I could duplicate the process. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:55, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, JP, what's the correct Wikidata parameter to use for honorary inductions, like membership in the College Football Hall of Fame, or the International Swimming Hall of Fame? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:44, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Dirtlawyer1: with hundreds of properties on offer, I don't know if there is a special one for inductions, but what you could do is use P166 (award received; award or recognition received by a person, organisation or creative work), see how it is already used in the item about U2 for example, together with P585 (point in time) as a qualifier. For a swimmer link Q744713 (International Swimming Hall of Fame) and the point in time for the date of induction. I don't think there's anything wrong with that; data is data, whatever property is used. The important thing is that it's added! Jared Preston (talk) 17:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Two photos uploaded by you on 8 September 2013

Hi Jared,

For your information, please note this (and consequently this).

According to her ITF junior profile, Indy de Vroome played against the Swedish Ellen Allgurin during that tournament (2011 Junior US Open). And the face seems to match her photo of one year later.

For good understanding: I am not blaming you. I guess that the photographer (robbiesaurus) made a wrong note of the player's name when shooting at the 2011 match.

Kind regards, Vinkje83 (talk) 22:30, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, robbiesaurus made the mistake which I just copied back then, not knowing any better. Since you very kindly pointed it out, I had a look around and found Richard van Loon's set on flickr, which confirms who is who. I don't think there is any doubt left, so I asked on Commons for the file names to be changed, which has just been done. The files are now located at:

Thanks for letting me know! Jared Preston (talk) 08:37, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well done! Thanks for taking these effective measures. Vinkje83 (talk) 09:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Joan Ingram

Hello Jared,

I suspect that the 'Joan Ingram' who played tennis in the 1930's (and possibly also table tennis in the 1920's) might not be the same person as described in the article Joan Ingram (no birth date there, alas).

Perhaps this is a matter you might be able to investigate and possibly solve, somehow.

Thanks and regards, Vinkje83 (talk) 16:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Vinkje83: I'm not quite sure why you're asking me as I've never made any edits on tennis-related articles going back that far in time. First of all, I found this (

tennisforum.com), and with my findmypast account, can at least confirm that those details are correct (although the date of death for this particular "Joan Mary Ingram" could have been at any time in the first quarter of 1981, I don't see where the "March" comes from). I guess the Scottish broadcaster Joan Ingram is a different person, as is the Joan Ingram at IMDb. What else can I do? I don't own any tennis archive books... Jared Preston (talk) 19:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry for bothering you about something that now appears to be outside your area. Somehow you have become my primary point of contact about women's tennis on en-wiki. Perhaps you know any colleague who operates in the far history of tennis, and pass the matter on?

In the meantime, I did what I could do to split the three persons up. See the new Joan Ingram. Hopefully I did't violate too many local rules, being from a different wiki. Vinkje83 (talk) 19:57, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that you bothered me. Please, if you have any questions, I am always willing to help where it's possible. I know you'd do the same! Maybe Wolbo is more knowledgeable on this one. As for the new disambiguation page, that seems fine to me! Jared Preston (talk) 20:10, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a lot of info at hand on Joan Ingram, but I'm happy to have a look to see what can be found. She should have an article. In any case, the three instances of Joan Ingram seem to be separate persons so the disamb page is fine.--Wolbo (talk) 23:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kristina Pliskova listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kristina Pliskova. Since you had some involvement with the Kristina Pliskova redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. 333 -blue 08:25, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting help translating info from German wikipedia to stub in English wikipedia article Gun-Brit Barkmin

Hello, Jared. I found your name at Wikipedia:Translators available. I contributed a stub on the German soprano, Gun-Brit_Barkmin. I tried a machine translation of the German source http://translate.google.com/translate?&u=http%3A%2F%2Fde.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGun-Brit+Barkmin&sl=de&tl=en but it isn't good enough to figure out its meaning (What on earth does "Both parents went to sea and developed a fondness for Swedish name." mean for example?) Do you think you could help me in translating the page over to English? I don't speak German at all. Thanks! SageGreenRider (talk) 19:16, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SageGreenRider: It appears you've done a good job so far, speaking as a Briton living in Germany. German isn't an easy language to speak fluently, although it's not the hardest either! I'm always a bit suspicious of one-to-one translations, and I'm afraid I can't offer you much specific help here since I have no knowledge of operas. However, I can tell you what the sentence means: quite simply, her parents were sailors (and as sailors, whilst travelling [at sea] developed their fondness for Swedish names). I can't confirm this though, the Berliner Morgenpost article is hidden behind a paywall. Jared Preston (talk) 05:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Thanks! Do you think it means sailors as a profession? Or as a hobby? I'm guessing the latter from the context. (Rostock is a port town on the Baltic Sea not far from the Swedish coast.) SageGreenRider (talk) 12:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, the connotation is actually the former. But such a wishy-washy source text (the original German) probably shouldn't have been written in a Wikipedia article anyway. Having said that, I don't know much about East Germans working on cruise ships in the time leading up to 1971, the year of Barkmin's birth. Anyway, the German article says she now lives in Berlin, in case you wanted to add that. Jared Preston (talk) 12:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK I'll fix it... one more thing... the Badische Zietung cite has "Und etwas Hell-Kindliches spricht auch aus Gun-Brit Barkmins Sopran: eine "weiße" Stimme, die in den hochdramatischen Gipfeltouren immer wieder schafft, was man ihr eben noch kaum zutrauen wollte – ein Kristall-Sopran von eigenartiger Faszination dazu, der öfter etwas Klirrend-Gläsernes hat." which Google translates as "And something light and childlike speaks from Gun-Brit Barkmins Soprano: a 'white' vote, which creates in the highly dramatic summit tours always what one you just barely wanted to trust - a crystal-soprano of strange fascination to the often slightly clinking-Gläsernes has." [my emphasis] Any clues about what "Klirrend-Gläsernes" are/is? And could Gipfeltouren be translated as climaxes? Thanks again SageGreenRider (talk) 12:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Seldom have I read such a badly written newspaper article, full of metaphors that make absolutely no sense whatsoever! "Stimme" means voice (as well as vote), and a "Gipfeltour", as far as I know, is simply a tour of mountain peaks, of which I'm sure Switzerland has many... Jared Preston (talk) 12:49, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to hack through Herr Koch's flowery language! ;-) SageGreenRider (talk) 13:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Valeria Gorlats

Hey there, just wondering about Valeria Gorlats as I've seen some Estonian websites spell her surname as Gorlatš but then some sites just simply spell it as Gorlats. Would like some clarification on this! Thanks. Also how come you've sort of abandoned me on the ITF Women's Circuit :( At the moment it's basically myself carrying the whole ship! Thanks! Keroks (talk) 22:53, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Keroks: I can't really help! I see the same, some Gorlats, some Gorlatš. I'd have thought her parents wouldn't be ethnic Estonian (judging by both the given and family names) and so Gorlats, to me, would appear to be right, because, well, it's more Russian. Or Ukrainian? I haven't got a clue, but it just doesn't seem very Estonian to me. I came across a topic in her name on tennisforum.com, there it's Gorlatš. Are you a member there? I've never posted anything, it's not really my thing. In fact, there's a bit too much going on there for my liking, but I've had a quick look a few times over the past few years. The Estonian Wikipedia, by the way, also has the article at Valeria Gorlats, so I don't know! Anyway, yes, I'm afraid I've not been up to much here and there are a number of contributing factors for that. First of all, I've been really busy on Wikidata lately. In September I was on holiday and since then I've twice had a cold and not been well. What doesn't help is when other things get in your way, be that pointless AfDs on-wiki (just a more recent example), or more shifts at work "in real life". There's always something to do! Are you in need of help? I should be up to speed in a couple of weeks. So please bear with me! Something else that has been playing on my mind, though, is the 2016 calendar. Back in the summer (or winter Down Under!) I saw that the ITF are overhauling their tournament categories for the coming year, so we'll need to think of some colour coding at the very least. Are you willing to have a look into that now/soon/or shall we do this closer to the time? And one last question, Keroks, will you be watching the 2015 Rugby World Cup Final this weekend? I can't wait! Jared Preston (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jared Preston: Yeh the member who changed the title to Gorlatš isn't quite trustworthy haha! And yes I do post there quite regularly. I guess if Estonian Wiki has Gorlats then we'll just keep it like that. No, not really that much in need of help, except in the next couple weeks I do have some exams but I'm afraid that I am spending too much time on Wiki! (It's too addicting). That's okay if you are too busy to contribute, we should always put real life first :) Yes the ITF are changing the prize money range, but however as you can see here that only in 2016 they are scrapping 15ks so we don't have to worry about it until 2017. But I guess in 2017 we could just change the 100k colour to 125k, 75k to 90k, etc. Gonna be confusing with ITF 125ks and WTA 125ks haha! And no, I don't watch rugby haha! Basically my life just revolves around tennis 24/7. Anyway, hope you are well, take care :) Keroks (talk) 01:06, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Keroks: I've just made my first update to 2015 ITF Women's Circuit (October–December). A lot of new redlinks reaching the quarterfinals! Although I think there were more earlier in the year. Cool that you're a member on tennisforum. I don't know how you manage to navigate around the site! But I guess Wikipedia is the same for new users. Do you know if a lot of other users there edit articles here? Some people seem to have a lot of knowledge and personal connections to the sport, I was just thinking that it would be really good if some would donate their photos to Wikimedia Commons for use in our articles. Anyway, I wish you all the best of luck for your exams! Don't forget to revise and go to bed early the night before! Jared Preston (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jared Preston: Great to have you back :) The site is easy to navigate haha! I'm not quite sure there are many people who edit wikipedia on there actually, not that I'm aware of. One member called catgamer used to do the ITF Women's Circuit with me but he's kinda disappeared from wiki and more on tennisforum now. There are some people who post pictures from tournaments, but not often, I'll ask them if I get a chance. I also have been going to the Australian Open for a couple years now and I do take pictures as you can see on my flickr here, I've only updated pictures to Priscilla Hon and Bojana Bobusic though, feel free to use any if you want :) Keroks (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another obscure German phrase...

Hi! Me again!

I placed a cite on Communicant Semiconductor Technologies. The German title is:

Valerius, G., Gleiche Chancen ungleich genutzt? : erwerbsbiographische Mobilitätspfade im ostdeutschen Transformationsprozeß zwischen 1990 und 1996 ; Studie zum beruflichen Verbleib einer ausgewählten Ingenieurgruppe des VEB Halbleiterwerk Frankfurt (Oder)

Using Google translate and some guess work I came up with:

"Equal opportunities used unequally? : Work biography mobility paths(tr.?) in the East German transformation process between 1990 and 1996 ; Study on the professional fate of a selected group of engineers of the state-owned enterprise, Semiconductor Factory in Frankfurt (Oder)

...but I'm having trouble with "erwerbsbiographische Mobilitätspfade"

Any clues?

Cheers SageGreenRider (talk) 00:38, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SageGreenRider: Again, you've picked some really fancy, made-up German shit! Well, erwerbsbiographisch is the adjective to "Erwerbsbiographie" – employment history. Mobilitätspfad (plural Mobilitätspfade) is a made up compound word. It's one which I don't really know how to explain, let alone translate. It's not translatable, let's just say that. Anyway, here's an attempt at an explanation: if you have trained for a job and worked in this field for 20 years, then, for example, the company goes bust and you become redundant, but can't find a similar job, you end up becoming flexible and work in another field. This journey, so to say, of changing your profession, could be a Mobilitätspfad, but this is only my understanding of the word. Maybe it has a different meaning, but I doubt it has a real denotation, because it is not a word you will find in any normal dictionary. With that, it's hard to define a single word, or even short phrase, in English for comparison. I'm sorry! Jared Preston (talk) 20:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for giving it a shot! I think I get the idea at least. It's something to do with forced career development, retraining and so on.SageGreenRider (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Meaning of paragraph?

Hi! Can you help me again? In:

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/brandenburgi/betreiber-der-chipfabrik-glauben-nicht-mehr-an-ihren-erfolg/455696.html

...I'm struggling to understand the penultimate para:

Allerdings sollen namhafte Ausrüster nach anderen Informationen von der Konkurrenz in Dresden – dort entstehen derzeit neue Fertigungsstätten für Infineon – gewarnt worden sein: Sie sollten keine Verträge mit Communicant abschließen, weil die Bund-Landes-Bürgschaft nicht gewährt werde. Bei Communicant glaubt man, dass eine mächtige Lobby, die bis ins Bundeswirtschaftsministerium reicht, den Bau der Chipfabrik in Frankfurt verhindern will.

Google gives:

However, to well-known supplier for other information apart from the competition in Dresden - there are currently emerging new production facilities for Infineon - be warned: You should not conclude contracts with Communicant because the federal-state-guarantee was not granted. that a powerful lobby, which dates back to the Federal Ministry of Economics, wants to prevent the building of the chip factory in Frankfurt.

The "However, to well-known supplier for other information apart from the competition in Dresden..." and "In Communicant one believes..." phrases don't make much sense to me. SageGreenRider (talk) 22:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@SageGreenRider: This one is easy compared to the others before, I've translated the whole thing for you!

However, well-known suppliers have been warned by new information coming from the competition in Dresden – for it is there that new production facilities for Infineon are being developed – they shouldn't negotiate new contracts with Communicant because federal-state-guarantees have not been granted. Communicant believes that a powerful lobby, reaching as far as the Federal Ministry of Economics, wants to prevent the building of the chip factory in Frankfurt.

— Jared Preston (talk) 09:17, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! That's intriguing. Is the journalist implying that Infineon is or is part of powerful lobby against Communicant? They certainly seem to be at each others throats on many fronts... SageGreenRider (talk) 12:45, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Jared Preston (talk) 16:42, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Christian Saba - Part 2

Hi there JP, from Portugal,

thanks for being a kind TPS. However, does this (also) mean I have translated the ref in Mr. Saba's article poorly? If so, can you help out please?

Happy 2016, cheers --84.90.219.128 (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is a very literal translation, but seems fine to me. I don't see the need to translate the titles of references, as it's the text that needs to be understood. That's only my opinion though! Jared Preston (talk) 00:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, great point! Does not do any good if one understands the title perfectly then makes nothing of the proper text. --84.90.219.128 (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tournament date

Hi Jared, can you tell me if the tournament date mentioned in a player's 'ITF finals' table is always the start date of the tournament? Noticed that your update at Indy de Vroome shows the start date (1 February 2016) of the Grenoble tournament. The reason I'm asking is that, to my knowledge, the same date field in a player's 'ATP finals' table, e.g. Roger Federer career statistics, shows the date of the final instead of the start date. It would be rather confusing to our readers (and editors) if the same field in the same table has different meanings depending on whether it is ITF or ATP/WTA. --Wolbo (talk) 17:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's not the tournament start date. Nor is it the date of the final. It is the date of the Monday of the week in which the tournament commenced. Maybe not ideal, but it aligns well with the rankings, as they are always dated on a Monday. It is not always certain when exactly a tournament final is played, especially going back just a couple of years on the ITF circuit. Singles finals are sometimes Saturdays, usually on a Sunday, but have also quite often been on the following Monday due to bad weather delays, etc. Some events in the UK don't even start until a Wednesday, unbelievably! Theoretically, one could start adding in the exact date of the final, although, given that it is impossible to know the exact day that a particular final was played (and completed!) on for every current and former player, going back in history, I find it a fair consolation to leave it as is. After all, as far as I'm concerned, the player has played the whole week before making the final. You may disagree with my theory, but it is uniform (like the week commencing rankings) and that's how it was when I started editing articles – I'm fine with it, but it's fine to ask. Jared Preston (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

About Yuuki Tanaka

Hi Jared, and thank you for taking the time to check that article.
I'm no specialist in the area of tennis... and quite frankly, I'm no specialist in any area...
I found her article as a red-link in the February 2016 "most wanted articles" list. I note there are also now by my count 73 tennis biographies and tournament articles that link to her article:

While the article about Tanaka may not pass the WP:NTENNIS test, perhaps she may otherwise meet the WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO and so on tests. What do you think about this? --Shirt58 (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For a start, Shirt58, many of the links you provide above were only created by you with the edit summary "Link Yuuki Tanaka - article happening soon", and although I know redlinks are an urge to create an article, I don't want to chastise you any more as you aren't familiar with the project notability standards. I think the same thing happened to me when I started out editing tennis articles! As for the rest, as the article stands, I don't think it does pass either WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. As for the former, the onus is on you as creator, and the latter maybe in your administrative efforts. But further to that, I don't really have anything to add, sorry. Jared Preston (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The feeling is mutual. I don't have anything further to say to you.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Changing tennis pictures

Jared,

You have sometimes edited my daughter, Cici Bellis, Wikipedia page. I am trying to change the profile picture but cannot figure out how to do that. i have uploaded a better picture through Wikipedia Commons but dont know how to then upload and embed it on the site.

Would you have any tips?

Thanks,

Gordon Bellis