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International law should always take precedence over commonality

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This article should be moved to its official and internationally recognised homepage Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, as it is FYROM. --Στεφανος Οι Οι Οι (talk) 21:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's not and it won't be moved, and there's no international law to that effect. End of story. Jeppiz (talk) 22:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me but if it is not international law then you can explain what is meant by Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. Furthermore, other editors may leave their views which may differ from yours. --Στεφανος Οι Οι Οι (talk) 22:19, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Other users have already discussed this at length, see WP:MOSMAC. Jeppiz (talk) 22:24, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't answer the question. What is meant by FYROM and when and why should this ever be used? --Στεφανος Οι Οι Οι (talk) 22:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I did answer the question, I'll answer again. You can read WP:MOSMAC. That is our policy and that is what we follow. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. Jeppiz (talk) 22:33, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry but MOSMAC is pathetic, it implies we should all use the non UN version Republic of Macedonia which falls into the hands of Slavic Macedonian nationalists. Now you see why I am trying to have this discussion as I still believe FYROM is a fair and decent neutral term. After all, Slavs cannot be Macedonian since Slavs arrived in that part of Europe nearly one millennium after fall of Macedonian Empire. --Στεφανος Οι Οι Οι (talk) 22:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And why should we care what the UN does? They have no power to enforce their decisions. Especially not over languages. --Khajidha (talk) 21:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support the usage of 'FYROM' over the current title per arguments raised by Στεφανος Οι Οι Οι --Ritsaiph (talk) 18:07, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Support the usage of 'FYROM'. A lot of Mazedonian people see this name as an insult. Only Greece has a problem with it. Also Luxembourg and Belgium don't fight against each other because of the name. Why are Greek people so feisty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.5.216.197 (talk) 09:07, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support the usage of 'FYROM'. I am neither Greek nor Macedonian and I only know of the naming issue by reading about it on WP, hence I believe my view is rather neutral. As a regular donor and reader of WP, I find it highly disappointing that WP took a decision that, in my view, violates WP:NPOV. Using 'Republic of Macedonia' clearly favours FYROM's position. I would prefer that WP is more neutral and adopts UN's position, which is also the only thing the two countries could agree on: Use FYROM as a reference to the country in question. Cristiklein (talk) 21:54, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2016

I suggest that the tittle of this article should include the following (FYROM) since it is the official name of the country known as Republic of Macedonia until the Macedonian Name Dispute is resolved.


Fedora Master 925 (talk) 14:50, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia). Sam Sailor Talk! 15:06, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2016

Change the name to Macedonia. That is its proper name. It is NOT the former yugoslav republic. We have and always will be MACEDONIA ZontarMK (talk) 18:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia) clpo13(talk) 18:04, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TechnicianGB puts Turkey out of Europe just to claim that Macedonia has lots of Muslims?

Well, yes, we do have a lots of Muslims. BUT, Turkey is in Europe as it is a EU candidate country SINCE 1987 and nobody rejected their application. Check this Accession of Turkey to the European Union . Here's what happens if a country applies for EU membership outside of Europe Morocco–European Union relations#Membership_application .

Kirev (talk) 12:00, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone to check the vandalism regarding the name of Macedonia?

A user vandalised all the names... Anyone? Kirev (talk) 13:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Editing problem

I found this on the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Macedonia) talk page and I quote "According to the agreement which greece and fyrom made in 1995 its illegal for fyrom to be called with other names such us macedonia or republic of macedonia. You can read the pdf of the agreement here http://www.mfa.gr/en/fyrom-name-issue/" It is on the bottom of the page. If this is true than this articles tittle and info should be changed be edited

It's not true. It's just Greek POV. Just follow the Wikipedia policy. Kirev (talk) 18:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]