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Word choice

"De Camp's frank and judicious approach to his subjects has been branded by some fans, particularly those of Lovecraft, as unflattering and unbalanced." I'm curious about 'judicious' in this sentence - is it meant to suggest that De Camp is not shy about making judgements? That would seem to go hand in hand with 'frank,' but judicious means one shows good judgement, not that one judges. Of course, 'judgmental' is pejorative, if the intent is merely to suggest'unshy of passing judgment.' But, there are other options, 'blunt,' 'bald,' 'trenchant' etc.

If it is meant merely to suggest that De Camp was right and some fans are special pleading for their author, then I question the good faith of the passage to begin with; at the very least that sort of sentiment should be laid out more explicitly. Contrasting judicious criticism with the branding of fans is a bit weaselly. I suspect, however, it's a mere matter of wording. 142.177.46.214 23:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The hardbound version of de Camp's biography of Lovecraft has a very rich resource in its footnotes; the paperback version was published without the footnotes.Naaman Brown (talk) 01:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A short list of seminal works?

I agree with separating the full bibliography into its own article, but should we have a condensed list of seminal works here in the main article? -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. 09:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My thought is yes, we should, so I've put one in. BPK 15:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

H. S. de Camp

Is there any relation to Horace Silliman de Camp of New York who married Titanic widow Mary Farquarson Marvin in 1913? He was born about 1887 and died on July 15, 1954 in Thendara, New York. De Camp and Marvin had two children, a daughter, Julia Janet de Camp (* 1918), and a son (* 1920). OfficeBoy (talk) 10:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where's it from?

Either someone is doing a bit of very nice analysis and original research, or there are good sources. Anyone know which it is? 74.43.68.247 (talk) 18:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The latter. I've added a few more sources to some of the non-analytic material. Will continue sourcing as time permits. BPK (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conan the Barbarian

Perhaps Conan the Barbarian should be mentioned in the lead. Perhaps de Camp should be somewhere in categories Conan the Barbarian and Robert E. Howard.

Certainly de Camp's revival of Conan and Howard needs more coverage. (And the Howard navbox should include Conan the Barbarian whom I don't find there.)

--P64 (talk) 21:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

De Camp's involvement in Conan was just one aspect of a long, multi-faceted writing career, so I'm not sure it merits being mentioned in the lead. More coverage in the body of the article would probably be desirable.
Looking into the Conan and Howard categories, the first includes no authors and the latter only authors so closely identified with Howard (Mark Finn, Glenn Lord, Novaline Price), that the identification is really their only claim to significance. I don't see a good reason for putting de Camp in either category, particularly since his significance as an author was not dependent on Howard. I think de Camp's appearances in the navboxes Conan the Barbarian and Robert E. Howard adequately fit the bill here.
The Howard navbox apparently doesn't include Conan because it was split at some point between the box about Howard and a box on Works by Robert E. Howard. Conan is included in the latter.
BPK (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I added Conan to a section heading of the former --now "Books about Howard or Conan the Barbarian" which certainly fits the listed books-- and added a cross-reference notice to the biography talk and both template talks, eg Template talk: Robert E. Howard 2#The other navigation box.
--P64 (talk) 15:48, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
De Camp's involvement with Conan is covered more extensively in the article Robert E. Howard's legacy. --BPK (talk) 13:56, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As a long time fan of Robert Howard, I deem De Camp's contribution wholly negative. De Camp's completions, editings, and fatuous comments have, at best, no value; moreover readers unacquainted with De Camp's activities, may not distinguish between Howard's work and the De Camp additions.

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