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Argentina RENAR is now ANMaC & regulation on gun amunition

The Argentina section, needs to be updated, the most important change needed, is the governement entity that regulated guns has been changed (name and some regulation laws had changed extending the reach to any "state controled" material (guns, ammo, bulltproff vests/bulletprof contraptions like a bulletprof window -you need a permit to have/own/wear, just like guns do-), explosives, chemicals or materials used to make explosives and amunition, chemical weapons, electric defence weapons, etc,..) that now regulate guns the "National Weapons Registry" (Registro Nacional de Armas) known as "RENAR", is since October 19, 2015, "National Agency for Controlled Materials" (Agencia Nacional de Materiales Controlados) known "ANMaC" Law Number 27.192 at infoleg website Law at ANMaC (ex-RENAR) website

all variants of firearems permits, (use, carry, possesion). require you to prove that you have a lawful source of income.

firearms ammunition has regulations/restrictions to purchase not only on kind but also in amount over time, its controled and registered on the ANMaC. bulletprof items are also regulated (you even need a "Legitimate possession permit for bulletprof vest" to obtain it you are required to have "Legitimate User of Firearms" permit, if you dont have the autorization to use firearms, you cant buy/sell have/use bulletprof vest)

also there is a wrong statement about handguns, pistols and revolver caliber restrictions are diferent. current version of the article states that not-fully automatic handguns up to .32 are civil use, that is not true, thats only for pistols, for simgle, and double action revolver the "civil use" is up to .25 (6,35mm) above that is "weapon of war/civil conditional use" same as non-fully automatic pistol above .32

there is also a third type of handgun clsification in argentina besides revolver and pistols, and is called "pistolones" on spanish (are handguns/pistols that use shotgun shells and can be single or double-barreled) are single shot up to caliber .36 are civil use, above that, are forbidden (because will be a shotgun with barrel shorter than 380mm) ANMaC/RENAR website handguns regulation on spanish ANMaC/RENAR website "shoulderguns" regulation on spanish

i hope someone with better technical and legal english skills can modify the article to reflect all this. --WiZaRd SaiLoR (talk) 06:57, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Philippines

The sentence in the Philippines section, "The presence of a gun culture in the Philippines can be traced to the long-term effects of American influence." as well as the phrase in the previous sentence, "due to its active gun culture", were added in two nearly-simultaneous edits by an IP user on 2016-02-10 (see diff). The second sentence in particular at the very least violates WP:V, and perhaps also WP:OR and WP:NPOV. I am adding a citation-needed template to it, and recommend deletion of the sentence. Dfavro (talk) 14:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I did find a reference in the article to the influence of American media in the Philippines, but it was not cited on that sentence or anywhere in that paragraph, rather as part of a separate paragraph with a similar statement that better reflects the contents of reference; so I merged the two sentences, rather than using the citation-needed template. Dfavro (talk) 14:42, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good. Thanks for fixing it. (I moved this thread to the end, as that's Wikipedia custom.) Felsic2 (talk) 16:39, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

July 2017 copyedit

Sorry this took me a while. I've done my first pass of the article, and here are my initial notes:

I expanded the lead and tried to put most of the general links for terminology up there, hoping the following sections wouldn't have to repeat too much of that.
My biggest issue with the article was its length, more that 15,000 words, which is above the 10,000-word maximum recommended by WP:LENGTH. Lenience is usually shown toward list-like articles, but I think it's important in an overview article like this to stay on topic. Considering that comprehensive coverage of this topic should include 150+ countries, I feel we should be aiming for a 100–200 word maximum per country – if not moving entirely to a list or table format. With these matters in mind, I removed (or commented-out) some extraneous material:
- mentions of regulated weapons other than firearms/small arms, such as air guns, explosives, crossbows, nunchucks, swords, tasers and pepper spray
- historical background of gun control in a country, such as the Japanese suppression of firearms during the occupation of Taiwan
- some statistics (case-by-case basis) which are not part of the law itself, such as crime, death or gun-ownership statistics
- trivia, such as citizens owning handguns without a permit on Crete, excessive detail on challenges to concealed carry laws in US.
For article consistency, I will probably change licence → license and defence → defense unless part of a proper noun. Probably also target shooting → sport shooting and pistol → handgun.
In some cases there was effort by some well-meaning editors to reflect on the effect of the gun laws; I feel that's beyond the scope of this overview. This should just report what the laws are like now; there isn't a lot of room to debate whether they are good or effective laws.
Israel: I was confused how the section has a list of persons eligible for firearm licenses, but then later seems to suggest there are a lot of other people who are also eligible. It could use a lot of simplification, but I'm unsure how the two groups differ.
Austria: mentions handgun ammo but neglects handguns.
Argentina: mentions civil use and conditional civil use but does not state the difference.

I'll take a little break then give the article at least one more pass. If you have any questions or comments, please post them here. I don't mind changing things back if there are issues. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:00, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

European Union?

Why does the European Union have an entry in an article called 'overview of gun laws by nation'? The EU is not a nation, and whilst I can appreciate that EU-level regulations might affect gun law in the member states, it's no different to other treaty organisations imposing regulation, such as the UN.

To be clear, there is a strong political thread amongst some people that would love to see the EU become a nation, but in 2017 it absolutely is not one. On that basis I can't see how it belongs in this article, unless the title were to be changed. JulesVerne (talk) 12:55, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]