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Abyssinian People

The article is a about an ethno-linguistic group of people. Language classification is the criteria for grouping people and myth, legend, religion, politics, nationalism & demography (majority-minority) are not. See similar ethno-linguistic articles such as Romance people for Romance language speakers [1], Iranian peoples for Iranian language speakers[2], Bantu peoples for Bantu languages speakers (including the Arab Mixed Swahili people [3]), Nilotic peoples for Nilotic languages etc. See the religions listed under Iranian peoples article and all religions even minorities are listed such as Jews, protestant, Atheism, Bahai, Paganism eventhough over 90% of the people under that ethno-linguistic group are muslims. When it comes to the Ethio-semitic ethno-linguistic group of people the most closely related people are South Arabian language speakers (Yemen & Oman) based on professional linguistic experts (as well as genetic studies), but not Jews. And for Amharic the most closely related people are Argobas (not Tigrinya speakers) and were one language by 1040 AD (i.e. 140 years after Shewa Sultanate was established).See [4][5] for date estimates in which Ehio-semitics separated. Therfore, when including Amhara People with any grouping that may also include Tigrinya speakers then it gets included together with it's most closely related languages like Argoba, Gafat, Harari, Zay and Gurage otherwise it does not make sense. These were discussed in the article's talk page extensively. — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 08:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your response copied from my talkpage diffs:

Language is not the criteria for grouping people but citations. Its based off the wikipedia editors personal work and not references. Ge'ez is not even related to Amharic. The Tigre people for example do not want to be called Abyssinian, this can bring a potential lawsuit by members of that community against wikipedia for misrepresentation. Citations are clear. Abyssinians claim Jewish origin as the Amhara people page says. the Argobba claim descent from Arabs. Nowhere can you find a citation that claims prehistorically they were one. Please show the source of the origin of citation that exactly states what is posted on the wikipage. Duqsene (talk) 09:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Duqsene, linguists categorised the Tigre language as Ethiopian semitic or (Ethiopic) language and those people donot identify themselves as Ethiopians so what should we do about that? Also the Iranian & Iraqi Kurds & Pakistani Pashtuns are categorised under Iranian peoples and their language under Iranian languages now should we exclude them based on nationalism and politics factor? The Swahili people also trace their origin from the Arabia Oman so should we also exclude them from Bantu peoples? You have the black and ingeneous Americans who trace their origin from Africa and the American continent but they are refered as Latina & Latinos because they speak Romance languages, now should we also remove the blacks & native Americans out of that group Latin peoples (also called Romance peoples)? — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 09:27, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your response copied from my talkpage [6]:

Abyssinian or Habesha are a people who are ancestral to the rulers of ancient habesha not a ethnolinguistic block. The linguistic experts have labelled the Ethio-semitic languages, the Abyssinian languages but have not said Abyssinians are all those people. If it had been based on linguistics, Amharic could not be included in the Habesha category because its not related to Ge'ez. Where is the source for all statements made? This article might help you understand Habesha/Ethiopian. Duqsene (talk) 09:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Both Amharic and Ge'ez are categorized under the Ethiopian semitic languages (which is part of the wider Semitic peoples[7]). I have given you sources prepared by professional experts dating when Ethiopian semitic languages separated and showing Ge'ez being closely related to Amharic here [8][9] and why do you say no source given when I already gave you two. You have Afro-Arabs [10] because ethno-linguistic articles are based on languages people speak even if different race and origin. Note that various African tribes who speak same language also have different myth about their origin and if you are suggesting their shouldnot be Ethno-liguistic articles then we would be splitting all those articles also. You are deleting contents supported with reliable sources, that has been discussed in talkpage extensively & has been in the article for over 3 years without consensus. Your edit is being disputed so get consensus in the article talk-page based on the rule WP:BRD or request RFC. — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 11:32, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Duqsene, based on WP:BRD when your edit is being challenged you supposed to stop reverting, take it to the talkpage and present your justifiable reasons there so that consensus is achieved. — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 08:49, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring in Abyssinian people article

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ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. MPS1992 (talk) 17:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Warring

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. EthiopianHabesha (talk) 11:03, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hello! Welcome to Wikipedia. AcidSnow (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Duqsene, just want to say something regarding your recent comments. In those noticeboards you have commented about Amhara nationalist and how Oromos are Oppressed by them. And based on our discussion in the other articles talkpage it seems you somehow wants the inclusion of some contents for Oromuma. I do understand clearly what you are talking about. Since I come from a multicultural families I speak several languages and I know the concerns of non-Amhara people. Just so you know there are very few bad people. It's just everyone fights for one common cause, but there is always disagreement on how to achieve that goal. By qim tried for arba amt & people prefer TPF forever than this way. Anyways, am just here to make peace so with respect please do not make it into who wins and who looses competition. Please note that I am not realy supporting any nationalistic group and even if people of Ethiopia decided not to speak Amharic and choose to speak Chinese, Arabic, English or Oromo is not realy my concern. — EthiopianHabesha (talk) 01:12, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

January 2017

Your recent editing history at Medri Bahri shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Toddst1 (talk) 16:19, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Duqsene reported by User:Toddst1 (Result: ). Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 16:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

medri bahri (more sources needed)

Duqsene, Take a look at the recent edits I did in Medri Bahri article. I need more sources to add to the article. For example, what was Medri Bahri society like? structure? hierarchy? culture, language? etc? I see you edited a few times there. I've searched the internet and am not finding much. please provide more sources if you have any offline.CrumpPlint (talk) 07:04, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

CrumpPlint Sign up here [11] for access to academic research. Duqsene (talk) 17:37, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!CrumpPlint (talk) 21:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

check this out

Duqsene, check this out [12]. I don't get why resourcer keeps doing this?CrumpPlint (talk) 04:13, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

November 2017

Hello, I'm Matthew hk. Your recent edit to the page Zlatan Ibrahimović appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please see talk page to understand the consensuses of the MoS style create by footy project Matthew_hk t c 02:55, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Matthew_hk t c 02:56, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

looks like consensus is against you since you are the only one reverting. Duqsene (talk) 21:35, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]