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1991 Commitment
I reverted an edit to the article earlier, and then put it back, but wanted to allow for a discussion. Both here and on the article NATO, I've seen editors really pack in several paragraphs on an alleged verbal commitment that American or European representatives gave about NATO expansion during the 1991 Two Plus Four negotiations. I have studied the issue, and conclude that there is very little substance to discuss here. It seems to be just the opinions of one biased observer vs those of another biased observer. If a line about NATO expansion was included in the treaty, then it would be notable, but dedicating a subsection of this article to hearsay is probably undue weight. We already have a good amount on the topic at Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany#Eastward expansion of NATO, on the main NATO article, and here. The 2+4 Treaty was not with NATO but with six independent states, doesn't mention NATO, and Gorbachev has recanted his claims on the topic, which I think makes it less notable, rather than more. Further, I think it betrays a perspective that the article should avoid, one of a bipolar world with countries like a Risk board, seeing enlargement as NATO "advancing" rather than as individual countries that elected, and generally continue to elect, politicians in favor of a common military alliance. Thoughts?-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 01:34, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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Neutrality of the article
The whole article reads like a pro-NATO article. Who were the ones who wrote the article? NATO headquarter?
But anyway, aside from this, I think that the sources linked into the article must be reviewed a LOT more critically to really show that what is claimed, is true. To get a better overview, I would recommend that in particular when polls are done to:
a) show more polls in general, even critical ones rather than the default "public opinion increasingly shows a pro-NATO attitude" bla bla
and
b) ensure that these links are coming from somewhat objective sources. I would assume that university staff in unrelated countries may be a good source, among others. Better than media outlets owned by private interests for sure. As a reader, I don't want to read propaganda, no matter in which way - I want to focus on the FACTS. 2A02:8388:1603:CB00:3AD5:47FF:FE18:CC7F (talk) 19:04, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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