Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 June 18
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Category:Brian Smith (administrator)
- Propose renaming Category:Brian Smith (administrator) to Category:Brian Smith (Physical Chemist)
- Nominator's rationale: The revised name better reflects Brian Smith's profession 86.183.158.221 (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category:Fictional LGBT characters in radio
- Propose deleting Category:Fictional LGBT characters in radio - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Fictional LGBT characters in radio - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT whose name is not an accurate or defining reflection of its contents. "Fictional X in radio" would refer to characters in radio comedy or drama programs -- but the one entry here is a song, not scripted radio fiction. The song is already filed in Category:LGBT-related songs as it is, so categorizing it as "radio" isn't adding any noteworthy or defining context that isn't already covered off by existing categories. Bearcat (talk) 16:37, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Crimes related to the European migrant crisis - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Crimes related to the European migrant crisis - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: This recently created category raises a number of concerns. Firstly, though not most importantly, some of these are 'alleged' crimes - plots etc that never went to court. Secondly, any relationship to the 'European migrant crisis' is often tenuous - often being only related in that the perp - or alleged perp - is a refugee or migrant, or the child of one. This leads to my main concern - the category is de facto - crimes committed (or alleged against) - a specific demographic group (migrants - or European born children of migrants). Is this something we do? Do we have 'murders commited by black men' or 'frauds committed by Jews' as categories? Thoughts Pincrete (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note that the category contains both attacks on migrants who arrived during the crisis and Attacks by such migrants. And Note that the perpetrators number both Christians (eg. 2015 IKEA stabbing attack and
Jews.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:30, 18 June 2018 (UTC)- (edit conflict)I was about to add that there is at least one article about attacks against migrants. Who mentioned religion? Migrants or their children are still a demographic group regardless of that.Pincrete (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note that the category contains both attacks on migrants who arrived during the crisis and Attacks by such migrants. And Note that the perpetrators number both Christians (eg. 2015 IKEA stabbing attack and
- Delete - There have been European migrant crises for hundreds if not thousands of years. For this category to work, there would have to be some kind of cut-off date and the connection between the crime and the "crisis" would have to be proved. As an illustration of what I mean, does Expulsion of the Jews from Sicily belong in this category? And if not, why not? Deb (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- I would add that these crimes don't belong in the "European migrant crisis" category either. Deb (talk) 15:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Category:Crimes by period.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Everybody understands what this category means, except a few people who seem to want to misunderstand it. The European migrant crisis is not existent since hundreds and thousands of years. It is existent since 2015, see the related article, otherwise that one would have to be renamed, too. The arguments I read above seem to be made to deny that there is in fact a link between the crisis and the crimes. Transparent indeed. But sad but true: Obviously there are links, and they definitely belong in this category.--Greywin (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep and Note that we have many Crime categories delimited by period, by ethnic group, and by both period and group involved involved, including: Category:Caste-related violence in India; Category:1984 anti-Sikh riots; Category:Protests in Mandatory Syria; Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims, ; Category:1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine; Category:Anti-Armenian pogroms; Category:Holocaust massacres and pogroms; Category:Holocaust massacres and pogroms in Poland; Category:Massacres by First Nations; Category:Massacres of Native Americans; Category:Pequot War (note that, like the category under discussion, it includes the massacres of and by both sides,) Category:Kristallnacht.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:26, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category:Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs
- Propose deleting Category:Berkshire County, Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Hampden County, Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Hampshire County, Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Berkshire County, Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: A group of dedicated editors have raised all previously tagged articles to at least start level. Categories empty. Propose deleting categories. Keep templates, but upmerge to Category:Massachusetts Registered Historic Place stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category: Marine fauna of Australia
- Propose renaming Category:Marine fauna of Australia to Category:Marine fish of Australia
- Nominator's rationale: The category exclusively contains fish ; a parent category "Marine fauna of Australia" can later be added, once other daughter categories are created (e.g. "*marine ?* Crustaceans of Australia" etc.). --Couiros22 (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category:Ludvík Svoboda
- Propose deleting Category:Ludvík Svoboda - Template:Lc1
- Propose deleting Category:Ludvík Svoboda - Template:Lc1
- Nominator's rationale: This category does not seem to pass WP:OCEPON criteria. The category of this general and President of Czechoslovakia currently contains articles relative to military units, battles, "elections" where he was an actor, and a film about a battle he fought (not about him). None of these are specific to him. Place Clichy (talk) 09:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category:Train operating companies
- Nominator's rationale: Make the scope clearer. All entries are in the UK. Rathfelder (talk) 08:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Rename but to Category:Train operating companies in the United Kingdom as it includes NI Railways. Oculi (talk) 09:15, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
- Rename to Train operating companies in the United Kingdom, to avoid confusion with Railway companies. The category is already a subcat of Post-privatisation British railway companies, so it is indeed specific to the UK. Place Clichy (talk) 10:26, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Category:Third-person open world games
- Propose deleting Category:Third-person open world games
- Propose deleting Category:Third-person open world games
- Nominator's rationale: This category just seems to be pointless. We’ve already got a Category for all Open world games, so why make a specific one just for the third person games. Plus, what about the games that can be played in both first and third person? Dohvahkiin (talk) 11:55, 18 June 2018 (UTC)