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September 2009
For Clarityfiend: I wrote, "It was while serving aboard this ship that Callaghan first met Ross McIntire, a surgeon, who would later have a significant effect on the former man's career." In this context, "former man" refers to Callaghan, just as "latter man" (if I had used that phrase) would refer to McIntire. One could also have used "first man" to indicate Callaghan and "second man" to indicate McIntire. Just a comment to clarify, since you seemed puzzled. Janggeom (talk) 05:58, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I have rewritten the article over the past few days, expanding it and providing more references. I have also included a reworked photograph of the subject (in the infobox) that shows much more detail than the earlier version. Janggeom (talk) 10:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
What happened to Admiral Callaghan's story?
Being unfamiliar with the Guadalcanal story and Admiral Callaghans death there, I could not find it anywhere in Wikipedia in the past. Then it appeared, finally people could see how he fought and was killed in battle. Then when I went back to read it again, someone removed it. People want to know the story. Who ever deleted Callaghans story, please put it back.
- As noted in the edit history, the edits were recognised as good faith edits, but they also inserted a large amount of content about the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal that takes the focus off Callaghan's life. This article is about Callaghan, not the battle. The battle has its own article, and has been recognised as a Featured Article—an article that represents an example of Wikipedia's best. The article on Callaghan contains links to the article about the battle at appropriate places. Looking back at the inserted content again, I notice also that it appears to have been taken directly from a book by J. D. Hornfischer (2011). While quoting limited sections of text is acceptable, quoting an extensive amount of text could potentially constitute a copyright violation, and in any case is not preferred (Wikipedia is not a media repository). To address a specific point:
- Request you revert circumstances regarding Callaghan's death. The information is about Callaghan. German Admirals Scheer and Hipper bios have far more "battle" details than Callaghan's article has. Revert those, or retain Callaghans.
- I do not believe this makes a sound argument on Wikipedia. One could turn around and say, "Go through every single military biography on Wikipedia and ensure that they all contain the same level of detail." Articles are independent. Just because one article has a certain level of detail does not mean that other articles must have the same. The main concern is that Wikipedia articles follow Wikipedia guidelines. As a suggestion, one thing that might be helpful is to write a summary of the battle, which could then be inserted into this article. Please note that, in all of this commentary, I write simply as one contributor to another. Thank you. Janggeom (talk) 05:11, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Navy version of the Medal of Honor?
This article states: "By order of President Roosevelt, both Rear Admirals Callaghan and Scott were posthumously awarded the Navy version of the Medal of Honor." While indeed the MOH awarded to members of the different services (Army, Navy, and Air Force) are physically somewhat different in detail, they are all the same award for valor. The qualification would appear to be doubly odd as it is unlikely he would have been awarded the Army or (had it existed at the time) Air Force MOH. By comparison, the wiki article for RAdm. Scott just specifies that he was awarded the MOH without further comment as to it being the Navy version.
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