Talk:French fries

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First mentions of long squared fried potatoes

Insert under "Belgium and the Netherlands", after "However, other sources disagree." (Ideally, the whole paragraph would be rewritten, since the cookbook references clearly predate the initial explanation offered.)

Food historian Jim Chevallier writes the following in his entry on "Frites":

"Since a Frenchman (Parmentier) first made the potato popular, it is not surprising that the first reference to fried potatoes appears to come from France: in 1775, investigators there found fried potatoes in a dish. Through the nineteenth century, fried potatoes became common enough that songs and engravings took the “Fried Potato Vendor” as a popular subject. But at first these were cut in rounds. In 1865, Gogué, in France, wrote to cut them either round or “in long and squared pieces”; in 1870, Cauderlier, in Belgium, also offered both options. Given the lag between practice and print, one cannot say that the five years’ difference is significant; the most likely hypothesis is that the practice grew up spontaneously and spread across both countries." Jim Chevallier, A History of the Food of Paris: From Roast Mammoth to Steak Frites, 2018, ISBN 1442272821, pp. 186-187. 23.113.53.110 (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC) ==

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 15:18, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

In 1680, pomme de terre meant Jerusalem artichoke

Aside from all the other problems with the Belgian "proof" of priority, in the seventeenth century, the French term "pomme de terre" referred to the Jerusalem artichoke (taupinaumbour), not the potato. Le Dictionnaire royal, augmenté de nouveau, et enrichi d'un grand nombre d'expressions élégantes ... Dernière édition, nouvellement augmentée de la plus grande partie des termes de tous les arts... Par le R. P. François Pomey, 1716, p. 928. https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k96365651/f944.image.r=%22pomme%20de%20terre%22?rk=107296;4 Never mind that the potato remained unknown in Belgium for long after the start of the eighteenth century. 23.113.53.110 (talk) 00:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Chips (British English)

Although French fries are technically a type of chip, "chips" is definitely NOT the British English equivalent word for "French fries" - they are two different things. Chips are thick cut fries that you get with fish and chips, French fries are thin cut fries you get, e.g. at McDonalds. If you got French fries served with "fish and chips" you would be confused, at best. 31.54.34.51 (talk) 10:22, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually chips are more like what would be commonly called steak fries in the U.S., but still basically fries. Fish and chips are usually called fish and chips here in the U.S. even if what you get looks more like french fries, not thick cut chips - interestingly enough the world goes on, and so wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.162 (talk) 14:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Still basically fries? Not in UK English. I happened to be in the US very recently, and ordered the "Traditional English Fish and Chips" in a diner. I got fries, not chips. I pointed this out to the waiter. He agreed the chef has it wrong. What probably frustrates most non-Americans the most is the ignorance of many (not all) Americans about what English chips are, while being confident they do know what they are talking about. HiLo48 (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

What could be more British than going to another country, ordering British food, then complaining when they got it wrong. -Taras (talk) 09:30, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

What could be more American than staying in your own country and dictating to the rest of the world about how things should be.

After all most Americans don't have a passport, let alone travel, but like to tell the rest of the world about how their way of life is superior. Chips are Chips, outside of the US, Fries are a bastardised form of Chips, deal with it. Trumpy (talk) 04:40, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

France/Quebec

I lived in france for 9 years and never once did i see them on the menu as "pommes de terre frites"

"pommes frites" and "frites" are the most common ways of them being listed, and thus should be placed before "pommes de terre frites", or better yet - just remove "pommes de terre frites"

Incorrect Nutrition Information

Hello. I am new to Wikipedia, and I noticed a mistake under the "Health aspects" section and citation 48. When you click on citation 48, and go to the McDonald's USA website, and then select size "large" under french fries, you will see that the nutrition facts stated in this article are incorrect. Please adjust them to fit the updated nutrition information as displayed on the website. Thank you. Furthermore, under this health aspects section, it may be beneficial to include other healthier french fry cooking methods such as an air fryer. --Efishers (talk) 17:26, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

@Efishers: Information has been corrected. AmericanAir88 (talk) 03:41, 8 December 2017 (UTC)