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"Series" vs "Season" based on first date's format?

Stumbled over this while editing Money Heist. In this code excerpt 

-- Base series/season content on the format of the first date; Series = D M Y, Season = M D, Y
local matchDMY = false
local thisStart = firstRow.start or firstRow.startA
if thisStart then
	if string.match(thisStart:gsub(" "," "), '(%d+)%s(%a+)%s(%d+)') then
		matchDMY = true
	end
end

-- Season header
headerRow:tag('th')
	:attr('scope', 'col')
	:attr('rowspan', allReleased and numInfoCells == 0 and 1 or 2)
	:attr('colspan', 2)
	:css('padding', cellPadding)
	:wikitext(args.seriesT or args.seasonT or (matchDMY and 'Series') or 'Season')

it is looked up which format is used for the first date in the template, based on which the title is set to "Series" instead of "Season". Why is that? Why should a table's date format dictate the terminlogy used in that table?

I propose that a simple parameter |series= should be used to clarify which terminlogy should be used when not identifiable through other paremters. I arranged a simple sandboxed version and prepared two testcases. If you think that this is a good idea, I can make the changes go live. Lordtobi (✉) 20:18, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I also noticed this issue at Money Heist. The code here is beyond me, but I'm for whatever solution can fix the date format not changing the terminology from season to series, as that is inaccurate. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:38, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Already exists. Use |seriesT=series or |seasonT=season. Thanks for your work anyways, no need for any changes. -- AlexTW 01:47, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@AlexTheWhovian: I see, but is therr any reason there is two of them? We could just as well use |term=Series or something in that direction. Furthermore, would you agree that the format=terminology logic is useless? Case example: Doctor Who formerly used Seasons (pre-2005) but also dmy formats. Lordtobi (✉) 10:28, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Backup parameter. More articles exist where its DMY format and "Series" (i.e. UK series) than DMY format and season. See List of Doctor Who episodes (2005–present): It uses "Season / Series". -- AlexTW 16:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Related, Australia uses dmy format but we use both "series" and "season". --AussieLegend (✉) 16:56, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We do indeed, hence the two parameters, for those who want to use either, and the ability to change it. -- AlexTW 01:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
AlexTheWhovian, I see what you mean, and yes we don't need a new parameter indeed (which I didn't realize before). But do you think it'd still make sense to remove the altering of the term based on the date format one single cell in the entire has? This way people using dmy formatting don't have to use |seasonT= just to get the standard output. The module sandbox is up-to-date with said "feature" removed if you just want to copy-paste. Lordtobi (✉) 17:46, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lordtobi, yes, I do. Put simply, there are more articles that use DMY/Series (as this is typically the default for the UK and its series) than those that use the alternative DMY/Season or MDY/Series. So it makes sense to accommodate for this situation first, as it applies to more articles, and then provide an alternative for the alternative case. -- AlexTW 01:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

bug?

I think there might be a bug in the code that deals with the "info" params.

At Once (TV series), I had to explicitly add the |infoB2A={{N/A|TBA}} in the following to get the table to render properly: 

{{Series overview
| infoheader  = Originally aired (UK & Ireland)
| infoA       = First aired
| infoB       = Last aired
| link1       = #Season 1 (2017)
| episodes1   = 80

| color1A     = #A52A2A
| episodes1A  = 40
| start1A     = {{Start date|2017|3|13}}
| end1A       = {{End date|2017|5|5}}
| infoA1A     = {{Start date|2018|6|5}}
| infoB1A     = {{End date|2018|7|13}}

| color1B     = #F5C71A
| episodes1B  = 40
| start1B     = {{Start date|2017|7|3}}
| end1B       = {{End date|2017|8|25}}
| infoA1B     = {{Start date|2018|7|16}}
| infoB1B     = {{End date|2018|8|24}}

| link2       = #Season 2 (2018)
| episodes2   = 80

| color2A     = #006400
| episodes2A  = 40 
| start2A     = {{Start date|2018|4|30}}<ref>{{cite web|title=Soy Luna y O11CE anuncian fechas para sus nuevas temporadas|url=http://www.todotvnews.com/news/Soy-Luna-y-O11CE-anuncian-fechas-para-sus-nuevas-temporadas.html|website=todotvnews.com|accessdate=25 February 2018|language=Spanish}}</ref>
| end2A       = {{end date|2018|6|22}}
| infoA2A     = {{Start date|2018|9|24}}
| infoB2A     = {{N/A|TBA}}

| color2B     = #2F4F4F
| episodes2B  = 40 
| start2B     = {{Start date|2018|8|20}}
}}

But from reading the documentation and checking the examples, my understanding is that if infoB is defined for previous seasons (which it is, for 1A and 1B), then |infoB2A= should have been able to be skipped/omitted and the template should have automatically put in the {{N/A|TBA}}. Which it doesn't... instead you get what's showing at this example. So... legit bug? —Joeyconnick (talk) 03:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Joeyconnick, it does seem to be a bug. You're right, it should be able to be omitted and added automatically. I'll take a look at it tonight for you. Thanks for reporting this! -- AlexTW 04:06, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Joeyconnick, I believe it to be fixed now. Cheers. -- AlexTW 12:44, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hey AlexTheWhovian... yes, it is working as intended now, from what I can tell. Thanks for the speedy fix! —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:41, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 December 2018

Template:Series overview → Template:Television series overview – For clarity Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). -- AlexTW 11:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion is the subject of partisan canvassing, contrary to WP:CANVASS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Informing a WikiProject of a discussion that relates to said Project is not canvassing. I recommend you learn about informing Projects about discussions that relate to them - you've already been requested by other editors to do so. -- AlexTW 13:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Had I said that "informing a WikiProject of a discussion that relates to said Project is canvassing" you may have had a point. You are aware of WP:CANVASS from previous discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have not canvassed on or for this discussion. The diff that you linked is my informing the WikiProject, as you should have done for this template and the infoboxes. -- AlexTW 13:22, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Your post is clearly in breach of WP:CANVAS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
State the part that it is in violation of. Per WP:APPNOTE: An editor who may wish to draw a wider range of informed, but uninvolved, editors to a discussion can place a message at any of the following: The talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects or other Wikipedia collaborations which may have interest in the topic under discussion. -- AlexTW 13:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The part that prohibits partisan canvassing. HTH. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot directly quote any part that prohibits informing a Project. Your accusation is mute. -- AlexTW 13:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Straw man; for the reason I have already indicated. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend you strike your statement; you have already been reported for edit-warring over this issue. No canvassing has occurred. -- AlexTW 13:40, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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