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Year it is set

Are we sure that this is set in 1994? In episode 3 the Corrs song What Can I do was played as the priest was walking away. What can I do was released in 1998 so it would not have been heard in 1994. Mobile mundo (talk) 18:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh Aah... Just a Little Bit - released in 1996 - was played during e4. However, it's sourced that it's set in 1994, so it seems to be a mistake on the part of the person who chose the music. Jim Michael (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks (Mobile mundo (talk) 22:36, 30 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Background music is not a good indicator; that could be artistic license to use the era's music instead of being beholden to the exact release. Even if it's part of the set (eg: playing on a device in a scene) it could just have been lazy period research by the production (or a mistake a la Spartacus and Ben Hur goofs). To be sure, stick to things you'd see written in the screenplay (core to the scene itself). --Jndrline (talk) 20:21, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources can be wrong, too. The ones I have seen seem to suggest 1990s, no more, and I wonder if the Irish Examiner deduced '94 from a preview of the first episode and the music therein? - Sitush (talk) 17:28, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Two of the sources we are using, along with some others, state that it's set in 1994. Many other sources simply say 1990s. There are hundreds of TV shows & films in which mistakes have been made in including songs, vehicles, technology which did not yet exist at the time it it set. Those are simply mistakes on the part of the makers of the TV show/film in question, rather than proof that it couldn't be set when stated.

Yes, and there are plenty of newspapers etc that copy stuff from each other and, indeed, from Wikipedia. If we have a source saying that C4 or McGee themselves specifically say 1994 then that's fine. Otherwise, let's stick to 1990s. -

Channel 4's summary of e1 says it's set in the early 1990s; 1994 is the most recent year that could reasonably be described as being in the early 90s. There are references to 1994 - including Michelle talking about watching Pulp Fiction and Saturday Night being played - ruling out any year prior to 94. Jim Michael (talk) 22:05, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but, equally, Mobile mundo (talk · contribs) notes a later reference. I think you may be unnecessarily digging your heels in here because there are clear discrepancies and, as I said above, the Irish Examiner may have done the same cultural analysis as you, which only applies to the early episodes. Furthermore, since another series has been commissioned, I think it is quite likely that it will move on in time anyway. - Sitush (talk) 22:12, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Clare or Claire

Both versions are used in the article. Which one is correct? Mobile mundo (talk) 22:50, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I changed all mentions to Clare, based on the spelling in sources used in the article. Jim Michael (talk) 01:08, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LGBTQ categories

I have removed the LGBT categories again. I accept that episode 6 saw one of the characters come out as lesbian but that does not make the series in any way significantly related to the subject. The series is over and only in the last episode has it been raised, although there has previously been the taunting of the English lad also. If we add this type of category here then it should be added to pretty much every soap opera broadcast in the UK, for example, and it is not. They all have storylines of this nature as a part of the diversity campaign etc but unless it is a major theme, the category appears to be undue. - Sitush (talk) 19:28, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

Produced by a British company and broadcast by a British broadcaster but featuring a cast that is mostly Irish of some description (Eire and/or Northern, I am not checking every bio to figure it out) and written by someone of similar description. I realise that some people in Ireland get very pissed off with what they perceive as oppressive descriptions etc relating to mainland Britain and that, yes, the terminology often leads to edit wars, but I'm pretty sure that the standard taken by Wikipedia is that it is the production company that matters when determining the national origin.

In any event, I think the recent attempts to add Irish and even to replace British entirely with that descriptor, are misleading at best precisely because there is no united Ireland. If it goes in at all, it will almost certainly need to be more nuanced. - Sitush (talk) 23:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Historical and Political Backdrop

The show itself does very little in the way of explaining the context (eg: doesn't actually explain what the Orange Order is). Perhaps this page should.