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Semi-protected edit request on 30 October 2014

Please change the subscriber count from 775,000 to over 800,000 CommanderOfPenguins (talk) 21:58, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done I updated the views count to over 55 million while I was at it. —C.Fred (talk) 22:05, 30 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Editing

Whenever I try to edit Emma Blackerys Wikipedia page to make he information more accurate I am accused of vandalism and I do not understand it PuffyPanda (talk) 03:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PuffyPanda: None of your edits are productive, which is why you have been repeatedly warned. In this edit you made some wordsmithing changes but provided no references. While that section generally needs references there's no reason to let your edit stand. In this edit you remove sourced content about Blackery's Google+ video and added some unsourced content about "living like a Sim." In this edit you not only repeated your previous edit after having been warned, but you introduced at least one typo and some unsourced folderol like "During the web series she gave her advice about self love and accepting yourself." Please. That sounds like ad copy. I'm guessing you're a fan of the subject and you think it would be neat to write stuff. You would be mistaken. In closing, we cannot have you editing Wikipedia in such a manner. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

The c:Category:Emma Blackery photos are fine for the event, but not good enough for the artist. Please find some nicer CC-BY-SA photos. Or create them in the UK or on her EU tours. –84.46.52.222 (talk) 07:50, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Better suggestion, grab some nice photos from Cute Without Ya on YouTube, upload them to WikiMedia Commons (licence CC-BY, attribution Blackery + video URL), and pick what you like best for the infobox here.
Presumably {{Infobox YouTube personality}} doesn't permit a vocal range, but if you know how to handle this without WP:USM source check out The Vocal Range of Emma Blackery (E♭3 - C♯6) on YouTube. –84.46.53.87 (talk) 12:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Update on the photo business, I've now extracted some CC-BY pictures from her CC-BY video on YouTube, and I'm still looking for a volunteer with a WikiMedia Commons account for a copy from a shared album to commons:Category:Emma Blackery. Ignore the meta data details, I can handle that on Commons without logging in, only the upload does not work as IP. –84.46.53.16 (talk) 08:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
AOB: Some videos discussed in Mainstream MediaCelebMix e.a. are AWOL (=deleted or switched to private), I note one ID here waiting for better times: XDzsATaYUI8. –84.46.53.34 (talk) 16:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC) Updated (was two IDs), just in case, thanks. –84.46.52.251 (talk) 03:58, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Total views

The {{infobox YouTube personality}} claims 157.5 million views combined as of 13 January 2018. Checking that I get 143.0 + 4.1 = 147.1 millions (lede: main + VEVO) plus 8.8 + 0.7 + 0.1 = 9.6 millions (vloggery + emmaforthewin + another inactive) for a total of 147.1 + 9.6 = 156.7 millions as of today.

This "negative" number of views in 2018 suggests that the article should use an infobox for musicians, with vocal type + range etc. (see #Photos), and that the moving targets "subscribers" + "views" should be limited to the main + VEVO channel in the lede. "Official" achievements like 100,000 or 1,000,000 subscribers can be moved to / noted in the #YouTube section. € 0,02: –84.46.52.107 (talk) 13:24, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Current and former channels

Admittedly the intro of the #YouTube section is too minimalistic, but claiming that there is only one active channel now without any source is no improvement:

  • The VEVO channel isn't "inactive", a new video was added on 9 August 2018 before the Villains Tour 2018. Unsurprisingly there was no newer music video while she released no newer music.
  • The inactive emmaforthewin channel has a "joined 2009" on it's about sub-page, it's her oldest still existing channel: Actually her second channel, unless I missed something, and the reference is good for "YouTuber since 2009" (or similar) statements.
  • The newest video on Vloggery was added seven months ago, and "possibly maybe"/"probably maybe" (Björk vs. Blackery) she won't use it anymore. But enwiki is no WP:CRYSTALBALL, without reliable third party sources we're not supposed to make up "alternative facts" out of thin air, and definitely not in a biography. On a bio a self-published source (by the person described in the bio) can be good enough; OTOH everything  needs a source.

–84.46.52.165 (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update: The Joined  timestamps shown on a channel's About  page are useless. She stated that the now dead PinkFluffyHatTime was her 1st channel, followed by a now inactive 2nd Joined 29 Jul 2011  TheseSilentSeas, and a now also inactive 3rd Joined 4 Feb 2009  EmmaForTheWin.So when are you gonna delete THIS channel? on YouTube
I'll replace #3 by #2 in the #YouTube section; CamelCase by me, for upper case I'd need a VM/370 /dev/pun with virtual punched cards. – #TheFartOfNoiseno offence on YouTube, 84.46.53.168 (talk) 23:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

YouTube importance=low + class=C

FYI: Content assessment, challenging importance=low for YouTube here. Maybe I'll try the suggested BOLD fix later. –84.46.53.16 (talk) 06:10, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life

@C.Fred: That's a good section for some facts still missing here such as her activism against "self harm". But this is a BLP, and I could add more than one self-published video, where she stated that she shared too much of her personal life.
The CFS fact is the proverbial tip of the iceberg, there are also self-published videos about other health issues (plural), about the locations + meanings + timestamps of tattoos, and about lots of other personal facts on and and on repeating right down to cup sizes, where I think that enwiki could wait for reliable+relevant 3rd party sources instead of self-published videos or CelebMix stories.
Presumably folks with similar issues will be delighted if they find somebody talking publicly about it, so this should be still good (for them). OTOH somewhere is a line where "good for them" and "bad for her" could get into a violent conflict, and a BLP isn't the place to fight it out. –84.46.53.242 (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would be better if the illness were discussed in independent sources, even if the info came from interviews with her. My concern was getting the information into a format that was more fitting for an article after the 91.1.* IP added it; discussion could then follow on whether it warranted inclusion. —C.Fred (talk) 02:49, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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