Talk:Java (programming language)

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Versions?

This article has a section on 'editions' (SE, ME, etc). But nothing on the differences between versions. Java 1.7 (and 1.8, though not yet finalized) is in some ways quite a different languages from 1.0. Does anyone think there ought to be a 'Versions' section with brief notes on the main changes (or perhaps just the language changes) in each version? These could include links to information on the relevant topic elsewhere on WP.

Making space for up-to-date info

The article has become quite out of date. In particular it included large sections with code samples for what are now semi-obsolete technologies (applets are deprecated, servlets are largely replaced by JAX-RS/JAX-WS and all the frameworks like Spring, Swing GUI went out of favour in Java for JavaFX which is now itself out of favour). So the information is low value and complicates the page, but it is also redundance, because it can be found on the main pages for those technologies.

So I have gone ahead and removed the code samples and added Main Article templates. I hope this will clear up space for better future material on modern Java, and that readers will be less mislead about what current Java involves.Rick Jelliffe (talk) 02:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

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Influenced By

Should Simula be added to the list of languages that influenced Java? As far as I remember, Simula is the first object oriented language, including inheritance, constructors, etc. The Wikipedia page of Simula states that "The influence of Simula is often understated, and Simula-type objects are reimplemented in C++, Object Pascal, Java, C# and several other languages. "Danieldanielcolo (talk) 08:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

No, as there's no direct influence. OO was so well established 5 years before Java (and Oak), and it was well established as a bolt-on to the existing languages such as C and Pascal. I wouldn't even include Smalltalk as an OO influence (much of what influenced C++ was perhaps from Simula, but more stringly via Smalltalk). Nor Eiffel. The most important, and somewhat novel, OO aspect which Java picked up would be the handling of MI through interfaces, thus steering a midway path between Eiffel-like avoidance of it, and the mess of C++ with MI of implementation classes. If Java's OO has a "flavour", it's of being one of the first to encourage mixins as a pattern. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Ok, this sounds reasonable to me; so be it.Danieldanielcolo (talk) 12:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2018

157.43.3.159 (talk) 12:21, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

You can refer the site www.cseworldonline.com for better understanding.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Are you asking for this site to be added in external links? We don't advertise companies here. NiciVampireHeart 14:20, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Sarcasm

This writer is really sarcastic.

This is a comment not a discussion. Bukhara (Kingdom of Bukhara) (talk) 13:15, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Such a multi-talented guy.

As it reads, this article currently lists the creator of Java as Ryan Gosling....and I think it should be James Gosling. Right?