Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naresuan F.C.
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. GNG is our bottom line and I find the argument that the subject fails that to be persuasive. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:40, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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Fails [1]. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 21:18, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Thailand-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Question for nominator @Sportsfan 1234: WP:NFOOTBALL is a guideline about players. This is an article about a club. Can you please specify a valid reason for deletion? Bakazaka (talk) 21:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- My apologies, I wanted to link [2]. It has been corrected above. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 11:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. Fails WP:GNG and no indication they have ever played in the proper rounds of the national Cup (which is the usual barometer for football teams). GiantSnowman 11:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The article says they played in the Thai FA Cup in 2018, it would appear they do pass that standard. Smartyllama (talk) 13:15, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Has played in 2018 Thai FA Cup in the first round.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: WP:FOOTYN—which is a project advice essay and not a Wikipedia guideline—notwithstanding, the only piece of in-depth coverage I could identify is this SuperSubThailand article. All of the mentions in mainstream media reliable sources appear to be routine coverage of the tournaments, and do not cover the subject in detail. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per Paul_012's analysis of the coverage. SportingFlyer T·C 04:35, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:21, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 00:21, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - @Smartyllama and Pharaoh of the Wizards: - I presume you have located independent reliable sources which verify the claim of notability made in the article (ie that they've played in the National Cup) that you've selfishly decided not to share with us? If so please do so I can re-consider. GiantSnowman 10:27, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- For some reason the Thai League website is blocked by my company firewall, but supposedly this is the match report from their first round cup game. That took me about two seconds to find by clicking through the articles and finding sources. Smartyllama (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- The match seems to me to be reliably sourced at the cup article, is there any reason why we can't take these sources as confirmation that the team has taken part in a national competition? Fenix down (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- Those are primary sources, we can use them for WP:V but when there's evidence the team doesn't otherwise meet WP:GNG it makes this a difficult case, especially since searching in Thai language results is more difficult than searching in a language with Latin script. SportingFlyer T·C 20:03, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- The match seems to me to be reliably sourced at the cup article, is there any reason why we can't take these sources as confirmation that the team has taken part in a national competition? Fenix down (talk) 09:48, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
- For some reason the Thai League website is blocked by my company firewall, but supposedly this is the match report from their first round cup game. That took me about two seconds to find by clicking through the articles and finding sources. Smartyllama (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:15, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:15, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Per my above assessment, fails the WP:GNG. WP:FOOTYN is not a guideline. --Paul_012 (talk) 04:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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