Talk:Czech Republic

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Q1. Why is the article's name "Czech Republic" and not "Czechia"?

The "Czech Republic" is the official name of the country and the term is so far more widely used and recognized in English than "Czechia". The name of the Wikipedia article is attributed to a broad consensus on this page (Talk:Czech Republic/Archive 7#Requested move 19 June 2018), which was unchanged after a subsequent discussion at Talk:Czech Republic/Archive 8#Requested move 22 November 2019 and Talk:Czech_Republic/Archive_10#Requested_move_25_July_2021. This question may be revisited in the future. There is a nine-month moratorium in place for further requested moves on this topic. It will expire on 26 July, 2025.

Q2. Is this the correct place to discuss whether to use "Czech Republic" vs. "Czechia" in other Wikipedia articles?

No, this talk page is only for discussing improvements to the article "Czech Republic", the same goes for other article talk pages.

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Short name Czechia

DMacks asked me to find consensus for text "also known by its short-form name Czechia". I think it's all obvious, when it's clearly sourced on the un.org website. Several reverts have been made here today, but that's because of misunderstanding with user Khajidha. He did not first specify his reason for reverts, then he said that he bothers grammar. The last edit he did not reverted, so I think everything is quite clear. Jirka.h23 (talk) 17:51, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I wouldn't really call that an edit war. While I'm not sure that Jirka.h23's last version was needed, it was no longer ungrammatical and did not seem POV. I am happy with either version. --Khajidha (talk) 18:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Jirka.h23 and Khajidha: Thank you both for your well-reasoned comments here. I updated the article. DMacks (talk) 05:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We could simply have the country as Czechia and that the official name is Czech Republic Xylo kai Gyali (talk) 12:43, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Czechia is not the article title as it has yet to become the common name of the country in English and article titles are supposed to use the common name. --Khajidha (talk) 16:52, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know it has yet to become the common name of the country in English? What is your source? Standingfish (talk) 23:15, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to explain how things work here the best I can.We have had numerous WP:RfCs and discussions on this talk page(there's even one visible on this talk page right now, if you look) and others and no-one has been able to provide ample, reliable sources and/or WP:policy- based evidence that leads to a WP:consensus that Czechia is used more. Everytime, our community overwhelmingly comes to the conclusion that Czech Republic is the WP:Commonname, and we use that to determine the usage here. Hopefully that clears it up for you. R9tgokunks ⯃ 23:28, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very much aware of all that, but thanks for enlightening me nonetheless. The issue I had was with the person saying that Czechia is "yet to become the common name of the country in English" as though it was a matter of fact. It's just an opinion, albeit a widely held one by the people who use this particular talk page. It's important not to lose sight of that. Standingfish (talk) 21:24, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is the consensus of the editors based on the evidence presented. --Khajidha (talk) 21:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless look what was agreed months earlier - [1] - Czechia is not completely banned on Wikipedia. Page move is denied, next window July 2019, OK, fine by me. Random usage here and there is not allowed, also fine, who wants that. What is possible (my interpretation of not so clearly closed discussion/vote): to use Czechia where sources says Czechia, to translate direct quotations of the word Česko as Czechia, to use Czechia in translations of (event/book) titles where Česko is used in Czech. Possible, not mandatory. And maybe not worth fighting for, so few occurrences fulfill this 'exceptions'... Offtopic: Current official wikipedia appeal: "To all our readers in Czechia This Tuesday we need your help. On 5 July 2018, the European Parliament will vote on a new copyright directive. If approved, these changes threaten to disrupt the open Internet that Wikipedia is a part of. You have time to act. Join the discussion. Thank you." Chrzwzcz (talk) 20:42, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will just leave this here... https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/domaci/czechia-se-po-dvou-letech-prilis-neujala-kratsi-nazev-ignoru/r~20e13ffa7f9611e8aaa4ac1f6b220ee8/ Cimmerian praetor (talk) 14:28, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It says how Czechs and Czech companies uses/does not use that English name. And then short note about Google maps. Also that "Wikipedia uses it in its announcements" ;) Chrzwzcz (talk) 16:46, 9 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening of discussion during moratorium, October 25, 2018

It should absolutely be moved to "Czechia". Why is it we changed "Swaziland" to "eSwatini" so quickly on one order of their absolute monarch, but something as simple as "Czech Republic" to "Czechia" gets bogged down in pages and pages of discussion and a 12 month moratorium? Seriously, Czechia is a logical name recognized by most of the world. PrussianOwl (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the move to eSwatini was based on "one order of their absolute monarch", then you can't possibly have read the discussion that led to the decision. And, now, note the announcement above that a moratorium has been placed on further discussing the move of this article before July 2019. Largoplazo (talk) 21:38, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually curious as to why Eswatini was moved swiftly but not Czech Republic. I personally think the case is stronger with Czechia considering the current name is basically the 'full' official name, like for example 'Russian Federation' or 'Republic of Poland'. I really hope this page will get the long-awaited move by July next year. --Wq639 (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My guess another 12-month moratorium will be issued. 97.127.9.115 (talk) 02:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to ask another question: Why was the wikipedia page for FYRO Macedonia nearly immediately changed to North Macedonia, but the wikipedia page for Czechia is still Czech Republic??? Phoenix (talk) 16:47, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Economy - update

...It has a per capita GDP rate that is 89% of the EU average... - see 82 --HAV278 (talk) 10:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HDI update: http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI, (27th with the new value 0.888)--HAV278 (talk) 19:36, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Non-religious to Atheists

After some discussion with foreigners coming to Czech Republic I decided to propose a change in the information box. Why don't just use the word "Atheists" instead of "non-religious", when many foreigners studying or living here ask "What does the non-religious mean?". It simply is atheism, so I think it would be wise to just call it like that than to hide it behind some "non-religious" stuff. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatran11 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Non-religious can also mean agnostic. Or deistic. Or spiritual. --Khajidha (talk) 12:01, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]