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November 4, 2018 - WP 1.0 bot "quality logs"

Alternate process to generate WP Assessment tables

Bumping thread for 180 days. JoeHebda (talk) 02:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Adamdaley: - Here is a possible workaround for individual Wikiprojects that may help.

  • Use the bot's data to generate lists of articles like this one, using a combination of the quality, importance and "external interest points score" for each article.
  • Change "Project" to what you want, then click on "Generate list" button.
  • After list is generated, page down & click on "Summary table"
  • Once on that "Project summary tables" page, you can change name of Project, click on "Make table" button to repeat for a different WP.
    • or here and change project on URL line in browser.

Sharing to (audiodudeKelsonWalkerma) - When I did the above, I see the table numbers for WP Catholicism & WP Saints have changed so it must be creating "fresh" wikitable based on current WP article assesssments. The table generated is "on-the-fly" and not stored at usual Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Saints articles by quality statistics location.

Cheers, JoeHebda (talk) 15:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Adamdaley: It looks to me like enwp10 tool is running as a real-time job to create a one-of wikitable for requested WP. So it is not posting to "WP 1.0 bot" wikitable. I just discovered this today - not sure how enwp10-wikitable (newer) can be copied/posted to WP1.bot wikitable (older).
Hope this clarifies a temporary work-around until new bot is ready. CC to (audiodudeKelsonWalkerma) Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 01:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've worked out a way to update the new assessment. Adamdaley (talk) 01:58, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Adamdaley: - Glad to hear ofyour success. Could you please share what you did so as to help others with same issue on other WPs. JoeHebda (talk) 14:17, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all, I had this link to the Bot to update certain WikiProjects. Here [1] – Which is of course bookmarked on my laptop. Another bookmark of this [2] – Is this easy to understand? Adamdaley (talk) 23:25, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alternate process

While WP 1.0 bot is blocked, there is a way to get current article counts (assessment wikitable) for your WikiProjects. Follow the two-step process below.

  1. Generate new project data - At Update project data page, choose your Wikiproject & click the Go button. Depending on how busy enwp10 tool is there may be considerable wait time. After completion, run step two.
  2. Display project table - At Project summary tables page, choose your Wikiproject and click the Make table button.
  • Both of these processes can be bookmarked on your laptop. Credit to Adamdaley (talk) for this helpful contribution. JoeHebda (talk) 02:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not only bookmarked on a laptop, but also a desktop. Anyone doing this must remember to call each of the bookmarks differently to avoid confusion. Adamdaley (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • After completing #2, is there a way to generate the table in wikicode for manual transfer to enwp (to replace the bot)? Or is this process purely to update the numbers within 1.0? czar 16:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reblocked

I have reblocked the bot at this time, per Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard#December 8, 2018 - update. Until ownership of the account can be established, the bot cannot be actively editing per our WP:BOTPOL. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:02, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP 1.0 bot - HISTORY

Going back through archives, below I have pieced together fragments of bot history. With possible gaps along the way.


  • "second generation" bot, updated from original - WP 1.0 bot (talk | contribs)‏‎ (bot) (Created on 4 February 2007 at 15:45) (blocked)

Activation

On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the old bot was turned off and the new bot (2G) began to update the tables and logs on the wiki.


  • User talk:Oleg Alexandrov - Wrote original bot

I have not been involved in this for a while, but try following the instructions at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Using the bot. If that does not work, try contacting CBM who runs the bot. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 1:05 pm, 22 June 2011, Wednesday (7 years, 4 months, 21 days ago) (UTC−5)



Two other maintainers have taken over the WP 1.0 bot, by the way, Theopolisme and Wolfgang42. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:14, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


  • Theopolisme and Wolfgang42 - When ?

From about 2013 to 2015, though it was really only Theo, and it was basic maintenance to keep the bot running.Walkerma (talk) 19:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


  • Kelson - When ?

Kelson has been involved almost since the beginning (2006), but initially only as a user. He first looked at the code in around 2016 when it became apparent that no one else was up to the job. He fixed some long-term problems, and successfully migrated it to a new server when the original one was being shut down. He continues to maintain things whenever he has time, but running Kiwix remains his top priority. Walkerma (talk) 19:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]


There may have been other people on the WP 1.0 bot team years back, now lost to time. Question - is there a requirement for the "bot operator" to be one person vs. a team? Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 18:51, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No one else really, other than User:Titoxd, who helped CBM in writing the 2G code. We had someone else volunteer to help before CBM, in about 2008, but he didn't end up writing any code. Walkerma (talk) 19:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Someone needs to have access to the bot account and take responsibility for the bots edits. This person needs to be able to login to the bot account to prove they have control over the account. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:12, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A request for volunteers was written on 22:55, 20 December 2012. Wondering where is a good page to re-post asking for bot maintainers? Perhaps at Bot Noticeboard? JoeHebda (talk) 12:43, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quality logs - Timestamps issue, re-visited

Bumping thread for 365 days. JoeHebda (talk) 12:31, 27 December 2018 (UTC) JoeHebda (talk) 12:31, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Greetings, At the November 3, 2018 section here are details about timestamps being corrupted during WP1.0bot daily processing. JoeHebda (talk) 20:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To view these timestamp errors, from left column - choose "Special pages"; then at "Users and rights" section - choose "User contributions". For User = WP 1.0 bot. From date = November 4, 2018; To date = November 5, 2018. Click on Search
Here is an example, of the many WPs in error.
  • 21:35, 4 November 2018 diff hist +21,523‎ Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Biblical Criticism articles by quality log ‎ Log for December 8, 2009 (2G r541)
  • 21:35, 4 November 2018 diff hist +1,551‎ Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Bible articles by quality log ‎ Log for November 4, 2018 (2G r541)
Processing went from Bible articles, dated Nov.4,2018 to Biblical Criticism articles, dated December 8, 2009. And processed BC many, many times until it arrived at Nov.4, 2018.
JoeHebda (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

enwp10 assessment logs tool not working

The enwp10 assessment logs tool (located at [3]) is down- the page loads, but selecting any project returns "Project 'name' is not in the database", e.g. for [4]. This isn't unusual- I usually can only get a response once every few days or so- but I haven't been able to get any results for the past 2 weeks. Does anyone know 1) why it's down, 2) if it can be brought back up, or 3) why it is usually down but sometimes up in the first place? My understanding is that the tool is independent of the bot, and other tasks like getting a list of per-project articles (e.g. [5]) work, so it's just the assessment log tool that isn't working. Thanks! --PresN 19:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Same here. When I tried updating the table using this url, it says that update is successful in the logs, but the actual table is never updated. —IB [ Poke ] 11:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Kelson is working on trying to fix the bot at the moment. I'll make sure he knows the tools are down as well. Meanwhile, we're hopeful that the first code for the new version of the bot will be tested this week. Once I get more news I'll let people know here. Walkerma (talk) 02:47, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Walkerma: Excellent news! --PresN 03:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently work on the new bot is stalled, but Kelson is working on fixing the old bot. Kelson or I will update once we know more. Walkerma (talk) 14:37, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adding new wikiprojects?

How to do that, basically? RE Wikipedia:WikiProject Bull Riding --Kyerjay (talk) 20:35, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyerjay: the instructions are at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Using the bot, but note that the bot is currently blocked and will likely remain so until the next version of the bot is released, which will hopefully be soon. --PresN 20:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! --Kyerjay (talk) 20:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mathematics Wikiproject:probability and statistics at Wikipedia:WikiProject Statistics

Could someone take a look at this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#Mathematics_Wikiproject:probability_and_statistics_at_Wikipedia:WikiProject_Statistics

Thank you --76.14.38.58 (talk) 04:34, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]