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"unceded territory"
This is not a fact suitable for inclusion. The book cited is not a legitimate source of information about land claims. No Court in Canada, nor the Parliament, etc. has accepted this claim. It's the same as if the Freemen on the Land declared their homes "unceded territory." It's that illegitimate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7A34:D600:886C:7D01:6A3:CE99 (talk) 05:53, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
"Unceded" means there isn't a treaty - which there isn't for this area of land (and most of BC), whereas the numbered treaties, for example, cover most of Western Canada.Here the City of Vancouver recognizes that it is on unceded land:https://globalnews.ca/news/1416321/city-of-vancouver-formally-declares-city-is-on-unceded-aborginal-territory/
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The "unceded" concept certainly needs unpacking and contextualization if it's to be included here but you're incorrect.
A) The nature of indigenous rights to land is inherently supported by archeological evidence of continuous use stretching back centuries at a minimum. Here, around the Burrard inlet, findings like the Marpole settlement, burial mounds, clam gardens etc. support this. Also few to no treaties were signed in B.C. and the ones that were (like the Douglas Treaties of the 1850s) were obviously crafted by governments in bad faith and often accepted under coercion or false premises.
B)The legitimacy of the claims is not dependent solely on Canada's official recognition of these claims, much like Jair Bolsonaro's non-recognition of indigenous peoples or their land rights in Brazil does not affect the recognition of those people or their rights from the perspective of more impartial observers at the global level.
C) Comparison to "Freemen on the Land" is inappropriate. The rights to self-determination of nations/peoples with millennia long continuity and histories of highly developed economies/politics/cultures are not in the same category as the purported rights of individual nation-state citizens who decide they don't believe in laws (e.g. wanting to own a society-built car and drive on society-built roads but not follow society-dictated speed limits?? hmm)
--Skogsdyr (talk) 22:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
unceded is easily verifiable and part of habitual land acknowledgements. It is easy to check that no treaties apply to the land on which Vancouver stands.
New Skyline Pic
I am just saying that we have used this skyline pic at the top for the longest time and it should be changed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albert368 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
I made a new one with the permission of tourism vancouver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albert368 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Albert368: Hello, I’m notifying you that I have reverted your uploaded image of Vancouver’s skyline back to a previous version. Their file is a duplicate of File:Vancouver photo montage.jpg, which was already released under a free licence. As a reminder, there is no reason to update the skyline picture (in this case, a montage) with a non-free licenced image. Tinh1000000 (talk) 05:29, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Vancouver ranks third in film production
The article leaves readers that Vancouver is the top film producing industry in North America. The city of Vancouver has always fallen behind New York and Los Angeles.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cornell ASU (talk • contribs) 23:13, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
GDP
First of all, the source for the GDP figure in this article's infobox is dead and the archive doesn't work because it's an interactive map. Also, why is the GDP on the Economy of Vancouver article using a more recent 2017 source that's different from the 2014 one on the main page? YVRtv (talk) 09:00, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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