User talk:Doug Weller
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User:Alg01
Hey Doug, (I'm Aṭlas, just losing my pw all the time)
There is an editor with a Single-purpose account, who is removing Morocco/Moroccan from every article he edits. My sock radar is telling me that this is one of Bokpasa's socks. The thing that forced me to say this is that they're sharing the same "anti-morocco" agenda. Just check out his edit history and you'd be amazed about the many times he's using "Removed: X morocco", "Removing Moroccan"...in his edit summaries. But, I don't want to rush. I just wanted to tell you about his behavior. Kind Regards -TheseusHeLl (talk) 00:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, are you here? -TheseusHeLl (talk) 02:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Greetings gentlemen, allow me to defend myself. First of all , no idea who this "Bokpasa" guy is so your "sock radar " is kinda off kiddo. Regarding my removal of "Morocco" from any article prior to 1956 is simple : this country did not exist at the time and for a person who calls himself a rationalist , you aren't doing too well. Notice that I often replace "Morocco" with its historical name " AL maghreb- al Aqsa". The only times I don't is regarding stuff like the Marinids who are not Moroccan. So added a modern country's name to a past entity is somewhat of an "appropriation" don't you think ? Now if you simply responded to the message I left you on your talk page , we would be here now would we. And again, rather than reverting my edits for no reason , talk to me. You have not yet attempted doing so. Alg01 (talk) 22:22, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- So your pov is more reliable than the Encyclopaedia of islam, The Cambridge History of Africa, A History of Islamic Societies, etc. ? When these books are plainly stating that a dynasty is Moroccan or a person is Moroccan. They're just lying? The authors in my edit of Kingdom of Tlemcen, are all lying? You're more specialised in islamic history than "Chantal de La Véronne" who asserted in the Encyclopaedia of islam, that Wattasids were a Moroccan dynasty? -TheseusHeLl (talk) 22:49, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
I could ask you the same question ? Are the people you cited more experienced than the Abd AL Rahman and Yahia Ibn Khaldun ? Al-Maqquri ? Al-Tenesi ? I'm not pushing any POV , simply citing what is written. Irnonically , the only authors that seem to support your claims where born in the last 100 years and have an interesting colonial relationship with Morocco...leaving me to suppose they have a personal bias. Especially if they're French , France has worked it's ass off to destroy Algerian history after their humiliation in 62. Next thing you'll tell me is that B.Lugan is a respectable writer. What a joke. Putting "Moroccan" infront of berber dynasties like the Almoravids ,Almohads , Marinids, when authors that LIVED those events clearly state their ethnicity not being native to what is now Morocco. Seems to me that you're the one pushing a POV. Not my fault Morocco is historically incapable of founding it's own dynasties , it's reliance on Arabs ( to this day) and it's neighbors in my opinion is the source of your identity crisis. I don't need to put "Algerian " infront of the Zirids or any Algerian dynasty ...because they originate within my country. Can you say the same ? Nope. Without biased historians , what is Morocco's history do tell me? Alg01 (talk) 23:44, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Are the people you cited more experienced than the Abd AL Rahman and Yahia Ibn Khaldun ? Al-Maqquri ? Al-Tenesi ?
You know that these are primary sources, and "Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so."
- I'm not pushing any POV , simply citing what is written.
Actually you are pushing a pov and you're just refusing to admit it.
- Irnonically , the only authors that seem to support your claims where born in the last 100 years and have an interesting colonial relationship with Morocco...
- Especially if they're French , France has worked it's ass off to destroy Algerian history after their humiliation in 62.
That's not my business or wikipedia's business. It's your own pov. French, Turk, Spanish, English....It doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is their Reliability.
- Next thing you'll tell me is that B.Lugan is a respectable writer. What a joke.
That's a straw man fallacy. I never used any of Bernard Lugan's works in wikipedia, and I don't consider his works reliable.
- Putting "Moroccan" infront of berber dynasties like the Almoravids ,Almohads , Marinids, when authors that LIVED those events clearly state their ethnicity not being native to what is now Morocco.
This reflects your non-neutral pov.
- Seems to me that you're the one pushing a POV.
Tu quoque fallacy
- Not my fault Morocco is historically incapable of founding it's own dynasties , it's reliance on Arabs ( to this day) and it's neighbors in my opinion is the source of your identity crisis.
Your biased and non-neutral pov. Thanks for showing your true colors.
- I don't need to put "Algerian " infront of the Zirids or any Algerian dynasty ...because they originate within my country.
you're showing your nationalist agenda. -TheseusHeLl (talk) 00:27, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
"Oh wow you've got me oh noooo" Sarcastic enough ? If me refusing to put "Morocco/Moroccan" , a modern entity ,in front of past countries makes me biased then so be it. The only pov i'm pushing is that of the book i'm reading - it seems to me that adding a modern nationality in front of a past country IS pov pushing but alright. Also , I don't directly read from those books , I do use secondary sources that eventually translate and give a sense to what the author is saying -verify it yourself. -And I talked about B.Lugan because 1, he isn't a reliable source and you can read all about his failure online , 2/ because he is often used by Moroccans to actually support their agenda and 3/ He's actually because used as source at least once in the following; Almoravid's, Almohads,Marinids , Wattasids. Anyways , I don't have all day to chat with you , I have done nothing wrong. Everything I add is used from a reliable source. What bothers you is me removing a nationality from a dynasty that doesn't belong to said country. It's called histical appropriation and i doubt it goes with wikipedia's guidlines. Next time , respond to you talk page so that we can talk it out like civilized human beings rather than complaining to an administrator.
Alg01 (talk) 09:34, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Sock
Hi. Could you please block this obvious sock of User:Nittin_Das? Thanks. Bennv3771 (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
EpiclyFourYearsOld
Hello. I see that you recently blocked EpiclyFourYearsOld. Mr.McGurhgan appears to have similar theories. Certes (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Certes: done and thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:20, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Books & Bytes, Issue 33
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Discretionary sanctions
Hi Doug,
I have recently received a message that some of my posts on talk pages were removed, but it's not clear to me why. The message notes there is nothing wrong with what I did, but my posts were removed nonetheless, so I thought I'd ask you for clarification if it's not too much of a hassle. Nikolaneberemed (talk) 09:09, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
My bad, it was an old message. Sorry for the hassle. Nikolaneberemed (talk) 10:02, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Hopping around
Hey you blocked 2605:6000:170c:4179:cde3:2081:6dc7:7d98. They are continuing their vandalism by hopping over to a new IP. This can be seen at David Starr (wrestler). Requesting that you can lock the page since RFPP can usually take a few hours. StaticVapor message me! 06:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- @STATicVapor: Another Admin protected, I've blocked the /64 range.[3]. Doug Weller talk 07:22, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you sir, appreciate you! StaticVapor message me! 17:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
LTA
Still persisting it seems... —PaleoNeonate – 03:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
May 2019
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style you have reverted an edit. Wikipedia has developed policies and guides which may assist your future edits. It is recommended that when you find an edit you do not agree with that you consider rewording rather than reverting an edit, and if your considered wish is to revert the edit that you provide a valid and informative explanation including, if possible, a link to the Wikipedia principle you believe justifies the reversion. Please read Wikipedia:Reverting for further assistance. Thank you. Daeron (talk) 14:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)