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ALL this reminds me of the DANZIG-QUESTION!!! Do You want another WAR???

80.151.9.187 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:27, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ALL OF PRUSSIA AND SILESIA ARE GERMAN LANDS AND ARE OUGHT TO BE RETURNED TO GERMANY !!! WEATHER WAR OR NO WAR !!!! Bukhara (Kingdom of Bukhara) (talk) 01:35, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Possible transfer to Lithuania?

According to Lithuania Minor#Lithuanian claims there have been (presumably fringe) opinions that the Kaliningrad Oblast should be attached to Lithuania, so it's not just Germany that has been considered. (Since the Duchy of Prussia was a Polish fief, opinions favouring its attachment to Poland would also not be out of the question.) Double sharp (talk) 16:12, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an article considering this option (and here is another one that is quite similar). According to the Wikipedia article, the Arka monument in Klaipėda has the top broken off specifically to symbolise the Kaliningrad Oblast, so the viewpoint seems to be notable enough to mention (even though I have no idea how much support it actually has among Lithuanians). Double sharp (talk) 14:15, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another article (not proposing the above solution). Double sharp (talk) 15:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

'Kaliningrad question' seems to be used mostly to refer to the Iskander missile situation, and the tension with NATO countries more in general. Perhaps a name like Status of Kaliningrad Oblast or Irredentism in Kaliningrad Oblast would be more precise.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 20:46, 3 May 2018 (UTC) @Simen113: @Double sharp:[reply]

This is perhaps correct. I was influenced by the Karelian question as a model of article name. --Simen113 (talk) 07:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone have a sense as to how popularly/universal the phrase "Kaliningrad question" is in use (if at all commonplace)? Is this the standard phrase used to refer to the question of Kaliningrad's territorial status?
Perhaps this article would be best renamed Political status of Kaliningrad and expanded in scope to additionally outline the current and historical political status of Kaliningrad. This title would resemble those belonging to a number of existing articles such as Political status of Crimea, Political status of Transnistria, Political status of Nagorno-Karabakh, Political status of Taiwan, Political status of the Cook Islands and Niue, and Political status of Puerto Rico.
To a lesser extent it would also resemble the titles of the articles Status of Jerusalem, Status of Western Sahara, Constitutional status of Cornwall, Status of territories occupied by Israel in 1967, Disputed status of the isthmus between Gibraltar and Spain, and Disputed status of Gibraltar. Alternatively, it could be retitled as Proposed political status for Kaliningrad. This would be a similar title to that of the article Proposed political status for Puerto Rico.
SecretName101 (talk) 17:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Per the article's page statistics, @Underlying lk: is currently the article's top contributer in (amongst other measures) their number of published changes to this article (50-plus). Perhaps they could provide some imput?
SecretName101 (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think Political status of Kaliningrad Oblast might work.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:49, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Good call. More specific in that it encompasses the status of the entire Oblast.
SecretName101 (talk) 20:50, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened a similar discussion about the name of the (earlier mentioned) article currently entitled "Karelian question". The outcomes of these two discussions may differ. It seems possible that we might retain that article's title whilst still changing the title of this article. SecretName101 (talk) 21:31, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can see the most sensible names are the present name, and the Königsberg question. An article on the Political status of Kaliningrad should be about the political status of the city/oblast within the present-day Russian federation, which is an entirely different topic. Toddy1 (talk) 10:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

and the unified Germany)

Using the term "unified Germany" in the instance of the 3rd German Empire is not so good as "Unified Germany" stands more for the event which took place in 1990! Germany in 1870 was NOT divided, every German state saw itself as dominant! 80.151.9.187 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:24, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion of inhabitants?

This article is completely lacking information about the opinion on the issue of the people actual living there nowadays. This should be (the) most relevant information. Without it, the article doesn't meet the quality standards of Wikipedia. Can someone please add any information on this? Gollem (talk) 03:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]