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Finishing the merge

Here are the things that I am doing to finish the merge:

Douglas Love (talk) 18:15, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Apparent misstatements

The article says this:

CR also forbids the use of its reviews for selling products; for example, it will not allow a manufacturer to advertise a positive review.^[1] CR has gone to court to enforce that rule.^[2]

I checked the first of the two cited sources, and it does not say anything that resembles what the sentence says. I do not know what the second cited source says (since it is paywalled), but these two sentences seem obviously incorrect on their face. As far as I know, the manufacturer of an evaluated product has no contract agreement with CR, and therefore has no enforceable constraints that govern its actions. Therefore, as far as I can tell, CR has no right nor any legal mechanism to control what a manufacturer (or anyone else) can and cannot say about their reviews (at least not in countries such as the United States where a principle of freedom of speech exists, at least as long as the manufacturer's statements are truthful and are within the bounds of fair use regarding copyright and trademark rights). Whatever this is trying to say, can someone please correct it? In the absence of a reaction, I plan to delete those statements, since they seem clearly incorrect.

I see some prior conversation about this in Talk:Consumer Reports/Archive 1 § Use in advertisements and Talk:Consumer Reports/Archive 1 § Bias again.

—BarrelProof (talk) 19:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Our Mission". Consumers Union. Retrieved 27 September 2012.
^ Dougherty, Phillip (10 Oct 1983). "ADVERTISING; Regina Still Restrained On Consumer Reports". The New York Times. Retrieved 2012-11-15.

Relationship to employees

The article currently says that "at least one high-ranking Consumer Reports employee has gone on to work for a company he evaluated". I think it is clearly unfair and undue for the article to say this. Employees are not slaves. In the United States, an organization has no legal right to stop an employee from quitting and going to work for a different employer. Readers should generally understand that employees sometimes leave companies and go get jobs elsewhere. That is simply a routine part of doing business, and it happens at every organization. That is not a reflection on the former employer. There is simply nothing that the employer can do about that. Maybe the reason that Nissan hired that guy was that they were looking for someone who was passionate about automobile quality so they could improve the quality of their cars (although my personal experience as the former owner of a Nissan car indicates that the quality of their cars was good already). But whatever the reason was, it casts no legitimate aspersions on Consumer Reports, and the cited source does not say anything negative about that employee's career decision or about Nissan or CR. I plan to delete that statement, as it seems to be unfairly insinuating something and also appears undue. Employees quit their jobs every day. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:11, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Please remove the following text. This information is a misinterpretation. Also the sources associated with it are self published instead of third party sources.

but its website has retailers' advertisements. Consumer Reports states that PriceGrabber places the ads and pays a percentage of referral fees to CR,^[1] who has no direct relationship with the retailers.^[2] Consumer Reports publishes reviews of its business partner and recommends it in at least one case.^[3]

References

^ Guest, Jim (Nov 2009). "From our president". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Archived from the original on 11 December 2009. Retrieved 2018-09-28.
^ "Buy Kenmore 6002[2]". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Retrieved 2012-11-02.
^ "Start your engines!". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Oct 2010. Archived from the original on 23 September 2017. Retrieved 2018-09-28.

Douglas Love (talk) 19:22, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Douglas Love (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request for adding content

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Consumer Reports is a non-profit organization. It accepts no money, test samples, or gifts of any kind from any commercial source.^[1]^[2] Products to be tested are purchased at retail prices by anonymous shoppers around the country.^[1] Consumer Reports doesn’t publish any advertising from outside parties.^[3]^[4]^[2]

References

^ ^a ^b Brobeck, Stephen (1997). Encyclopedia of the consumer movement. Santa Barbara, Calif. [u.a.]: ABC-Clio. p. 183. ISBN 978-0874369878.
^ ^a ^b "No Commercial Use Policy". www.consumerreports.org. Consumer Reports.
^ Bounds, Gwendolyn (5 May 2010). "Meet the Sticklers". The Wall Street Journal. New York: Dow Jones. ISSN 0099-9660. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
^ Stross, Randall (11 December 2011). "Consumer Reports, Going Strong at 75". The New York Times. New York: NYTC. ISSN 0362-4331. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Douglas Love (talk) 19:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[CR_Mission-1] "Our Mission". Consumers Union. Retrieved 27 September 2012.

[2] Dougherty, Phillip (10 Oct 1983). "ADVERTISING; Regina Still Restrained On Consumer Reports". The New York Times. Retrieved 2012-11-15.

[CR_2009-11-3] Guest, Jim (Nov 2009). "From our president". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Archived from the original on 11 December 2009. Retrieved 2018-09-28.

[4] "Buy Kenmore 6002[2]". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Retrieved 2012-11-02.

[5] "Start your engines!". Consumer Reports. Consumers Union. Oct 2010. Archived from the original on 23 September 2017. Retrieved 2018-09-28.

[Brobeck_1997_p_183-6] Brobeck, Stephen (1997). Encyclopedia of the consumer movement. Santa Barbara, Calif. [u.a.]: ABC-Clio. p. 183. ISBN 978-0874369878.

[NoCommercialUse-7] "No Commercial Use Policy". www.consumerreports.org. Consumer Reports.

[Bounds2010-8] Bounds, Gwendolyn (5 May 2010). "Meet the Sticklers". The Wall Street Journal. New York: Dow Jones. ISSN 0099-9660. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

[Stross2011-9] Stross, Randall (11 December 2011). "Consumer Reports, Going Strong at 75". The New York Times. New York: NYTC. ISSN 0362-4331. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

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