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DeploraBall
I went ahead and redirected Gays for Trump DeploraBall to this article, but readers can find some information about the event at DeploraBall. ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:38, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Official Facebook page
@Jonesey95: Are you sure this is the group's official Facebook page? This doesn't look very official to me. ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, maybe not. It looked pretty legit when I scrolled through it, but the author, whose name I did not see in any media coverage of the group, is affiliated with Breitbart somehow and is not the group's president. I removed it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:58, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for double checking! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi I know I am not supposed to make changes to this page due to COE: but if someone wants to add the official facebook page its
- https://www.facebook.com/GaysForTrumpOrg and our Group on Facebook is Closed to the Public is http://www.facebook.com/groups/gaysfortrump/
- also our website is http://gaysfortrump.org if anyone wants to add this in.
- Also if anyone needs more references to show this page is legit at our website there is media page that is FULL of them.
- I don't think Facebook links are allowed, but I added the official website to the External links section. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you Very Much Another Believer the website is good as everything they ever need is on that page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterBoykin (talk • contribs) 00:25, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
- I don't think Facebook links are allowed, but I added the official website to the External links section. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for double checking! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Request for linkage to March4Trump Wiki
Hi. Can someone take a look at these links its one of many: https://newsinwales.co.uk/exclusive-joy-villa-calls-for-love-tolerance-at-gays-for-trump-rally/ http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/03/01/gays-trump-rally-d-c-march-4/ http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-dress-grammy-star-to-lead-gaysfortrump-march-in-dc/article/2616397 http://www.inquisitr.com/4029862/gays-for-trump-spur-march-4-trump-rally-in-d-c-as-gay-rights-stay-intact/ http://beltwaytimes.com/march4trump-group-gets-unexpected-ally/ http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/03/06/exclusive-joy-villa-calls-for-love-and-tolerance-during-gays-for-trump-rally-in-d-c/ - Approximately 1,000 people attended Sunday’s D.C. rally and march. “Antifa” was also present and caused violence and disruptions in other parts of the country where similar rallies were held. - Villa flew into D.C. with Andre Soriano from Los Angles Saturday night to speak at the rally and march from the Washington Monument. “Gays 4 Trump” founder Peter Boykin organized the rally and march.
There should be enough in these articles to provide info to update the March4trump wiki and connect it to the Gays For Trump wiki, also to add more to the size of the rally than the smaller number stated in the current wiki. I cannot of course update it since I have a COI and I don't want any trouble. Thanks - @peterboykin — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterBoykin (talk • contribs) 20:13, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Notable?
Notability might need to at some point be established here. There is no real indication that the group is here to stay or in any way prominent beyond a quick mention in media. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 22:52, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
- I think the org may be notable, but I'm less inclined to spend time expanding this article for personal reasons. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:46, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Sources
I'm copying this string of inline citations for future reference. They weren't serving a purpose in the article, apart from demonstrating general notability:
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- ^ "Gays for Trump Founder Peter Boykin Calls Transgender Troops 'Mentally Challenged'". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30.
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suggested) (help) - ^ Broverman, Neal (March 3, 2017). "Gay Trump Supporters Organizing Rallies for President on Saturday". The Advocate. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-03-26. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
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suggested) (help) - ^ Scott, H. Alan (August 2, 2016). "Gays for Trump: Why Some LGBTQ Americans Are Voting for The Donald". Out. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
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suggested) (help) - ^ Moakley, Paul (January 21, 2017). "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Time. New York. Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved March 23, 2017.
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suggested) (help) - ^ "Gays For Trump President Says GOP Sick of Hearing 'Screaming of the Liberal Left LGBT'". FOX 5. Washington. January 26, 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 6, 2018.
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Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
65.118.44.201 (talk) 23:32, 29 October 2019 (UTC)Peter Boykin With the Removal of the citations, it also removed the reference that proved that I am the President and Founder of Gays For Trump, can this be reverted?
Why was Peter Boykin Removed from the Page Linking to him being the President of Gays For Trump?
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Hi, Yes I am Peter Boykin I am still the President and Founder of Gays for Trump so why was this edited to no longer state this fact? I think it might be because some of the cites you previously had on the page were removed? I am trying to get a wiki page of my own so I would prefer at least to be still included in a page that I founded at least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 23:30, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
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All one has to do is look in the history and it clearly stated that Peter Boykin is the President of Gays For Trump, I would request that it be put back in but as Founder of Gays for Trump, the cofounder is also my other half David Smith as well. Also above this section shows where the references were taken out that referred to articles that had me in it that proved who I am and what relation I have to this group. Is it possible for this to be looked into? I am not an expert of Wiki language. can someone step in and help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 22:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Reply 29-OCT-2019
- The question asks why a certain claim was removed from the article. However, it was not stated when that claim ever existed in the article.
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Regards, Spintendo 03:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Update: I've located the diffs. Boykin was listed as president of the group in March 2017, a claim which was removed in December 2017 when a new president of the group was chosen. A claim of being founder was first made in June 2018, where it appeared in the prose and in the infobox's
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- Thanks for checking into this, but I don't believe the "President of Gays For Trump" was changed in Dec of 2017, it has as far as I know been included. This was not changed it seems until Feb of 2019.
- This is the revision that included the correct information: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gays_for_Trump&direction=prev&oldid=884515083
- It seems someone else came along and changed the name in the revision after that which is here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gays_for_Trump&direction=next&oldid=884514929
- Listing "Rogan waye is the founder and president.[1]" it seems a revision after that just took out the part about me completely out.
- There is no such other President that was named. I am and always have been and will be the "President of Gays For Trump" -
- I apologize if I don't get the formatting correct. - thanks Peter Boykin
- Please add the following claim as the second sentence of the first paragraph of the Top section:
- "Peter Boykin Serves as Founder and President.[1]
- Using as the reference:
- "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved 2017-03-24. http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/
- "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved 2017-03-24. http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/
- Someone changed the name in the next revision it appears as a joke, and a few revisions after that it was removed
- I believe that these Sources do serve a good purpose, as stated previously they served as Notability: isn't Wiki ran on proper Sources?
- Please add the following Sources back to the Sources section:
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"Gays for Trump Founder Peter Boykin Calls Transgender Troops 'Mentally Challenged'". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30.
http://www.newsweek.com/gays-trump-trans-people-mentally-challenge-845251
"'Gays for Trump' planning Lincoln Memorial rally". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30.
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/02/12/march4trump/
Broverman, Neal (March 3, 2017). "Gay Trump Supporters Organizing Rallies for President on Saturday". The Advocate. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-03-26. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/3/03/gay-trump-supporters-organizing-rallies-president-saturday
Scott, H. Alan (August 2, 2016). "Gays for Trump: Why Some LGBTQ Americans Are Voting for The Donald". Out. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/8/02/gays-trump-why-some-lgbtq-americans-are-voting-donald
Moakley, Paul (January 21, 2017). "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Time. New York. Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved March 23, 2017.
http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/
"Gays For Trump President Says GOP Sick of Hearing 'Screaming of the Liberal Left LGBT'". FOX 5. Washington. January 26, 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 6, 2018.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/231909077-story
"Gays for Trump Founder Peter Boykin Calls Transgender Troops 'Mentally Challenged'". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30.
http://www.newsweek.com/gays-trump-trans-people-mentally-challenge-845251
"'Gays for Trump' planning Lincoln Memorial rally". Archived from the original on 2018-06-30. Retrieved 2018-06-30.
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/02/12/march4trump/
Broverman, Neal (March 3, 2017). "Gay Trump Supporters Organizing Rallies for President on Saturday". The Advocate. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-03-26. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/2017/3/03/gay-trump-supporters-organizing-rallies-president-saturday
Scott, H. Alan (August 2, 2016). "Gays for Trump: Why Some LGBTQ Americans Are Voting for The Donald". Out. Los Angeles: Here Publishing. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 26, 2017.
http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/8/02/gays-trump-why-some-lgbtq-americans-are-voting-donald
Moakley, Paul (January 21, 2017). "Inside Gays for Trump's Deploraball Dance Party". Time. New York. Archived from the original on 2017-03-17. Retrieved March 23, 2017.
http://time.com/4642202/trump-inauguration-gay-deploraball/
"Gays For Trump President Says GOP Sick of Hearing 'Screaming of the Liberal Left LGBT'". FOX 5. Washington. January 26, 2017. Archived from the original on 2017-02-02. Retrieved March 6, 2018.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/231909077-story |
Peter Boykin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.118.44.201 (talk) 13:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Reply 1-NOV-2019
- The
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Regards, Spintendo 15:32, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you it makes sense to have him back in the article 7valentine7 (talk) 07:20, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Peter Boykin Greensboro 2018(?)
In 2018, Peter Boykin attempted to organize a rally/march in downtown Greensboro, NC, right near the Governmental Plaza. However, the night before, he communicated to his people that he wouldn't be there because his mom had a fall. The very few people that were there (about 5,6) drove across the whole state to be there, only to be under a tent that had people selling Trump shirts. They were quickly ran away from local Anti Fascists when they played "The Guillotine" by The Coup. During the confrontation, many anti-gay slurs could be heard from the few attendees. A number of attendees were known violent Proud Boys, and later tried to instigate violence when they came out of the bar they hid out at.
Many of the people who didn't come later denounced Boykin, calling him a traitor and whatnot. Boykin also, if my memory serves me right, said that he was either done with or taking a break from any sort of activism or politics. I can dig for details since I know lots of the people involved, but I was wondering if other folks who have more time to write on here were also aware of this. I'm also not 100% sure what year it was, and also don't remember when this happened exactly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.187.141.254 (talk) 21:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Note I accidentally removed this section, I was not sure how to add it back. I will note that the above does not make any sense as no sources were given, plus multiple times whoever wrote this could not even recall their own story. This is what I meant to put in the previous edit. Thanks 7valentine7
Please add Peter Boykin as Founder and President
I have already made the edit but it was then changed back. Peter Boykin is the Founder and should be listed in the article and not just as a footnote on the far right. If you are going to say "Scott Presler is an activist for Gays for Trump" then should you not also indicate in the article that the founder and President of the organization?7valentine7 (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- 7valentine7,
Done I did not find your other changes to the article constructive, but I've added back brief mention of Boykin to the introduction. ---Another Believer (Talk) 06:34, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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