User talk:Sulfurboy

Please do the following when posting on my page(I will ignore your comment if you don't follow these simple rules):

1) Post new sections at the bottom of the page.

2) PLEASE LINK TO YOUR ARTICLE, I go through a myriad of pages a day, I won't know what you're talking about unless you link your article.

3) Please don't request me to re-review your article unless I've specifically asked you to do so. AfC is incredibly backlogged and someone will get to it when they can.

I welcome anyone to comment or reply to others on my page, but please be kind and if their post breaks one of the above three rules, please ignore them as well.

2022 Ohio gubernatorial race

I submitted it again with including the mayor of Dayton, Nan Whaley, and more references. You declined the article for being too soon, however other articles of this are present with other states with even less information are up. Your reason is valid, but Cranley ((Cincinnati Mayor) will most likely announce his full candidacy soon. Other people have made their own articles with less information which is why I am asking for this one to be made. Sksksks hydroflask, Sksksks hydroflask added 12:34, March 2nd, 2020 (EST)

Looking for feedback and direction on a submission, thank you

Hello Sulfurboy, you recently rejected my submission https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Openpath_Security,_Inc.#Openpath_Security%2C_Inc. and am trying to see what I can do to improve it as you felt it was an advertisement vs an encyclopedia submission. I do not work for Openpath and as a 3rd party industry expert, I am looking to submit a viable encyclopedia article on a company in the access control and security market. The articles referenced in the submission are primarily industry publications and although they may not be main stream outside of the security industry, those are about as notable as our industry gets (on top of the ones noted from Techcrunch, Business Insider etc also mentioned). Also in doing my research I emulated prior accepted articles like Eagle Eye Networks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Eye_Networks who followed a similar format and were accepted. I am not sure which part comes off as an advertisement so any feedback you have would be great. If its the "Product" section, I can edit or delete that but even with that portion, it is credible and real. Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BethesdaLee (talk • contribs) 17:31, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Women's Football at the 2003 South Pacific Games Review

Hello,

Cheers for reviewing my draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Women%27s_Football_at_the_2003_South_Pacific_Games).

While I can accept that the subject does not show significant coverage, the additional coverage from the OFC themselves are dead links these days. I'd also point out that the same subject on the men's side has been up for years (and is reliable from what I can tell) with a total lack of sources stated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2003_South_Pacific_Games_%E2%80%93_Men%27s_tournament. As this article would then complete all of the articles on the women's football tournaments at the Pacific Games, I felt it was valid of an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratkiller75 (talk • contribs) 08:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

What WP:OTHER pages exist has no bearing on whether or not your page should exist. You need to show how that particular year was notable enough to deserve its own article separate of the South Pacific Games article. Wikipedia is not just a menagerie of sports results. If there is not significant coverage of that particular year, then you've just answered your own question. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Granted, but the issue is not that it wasn't covered, though 2003 wasn't the most prolific year for publishing. The issue is that all the links are dead in the modern day due to website changes.

Modern dead links here: [1] Dead links in the Wayback Machine: [2] Wayback Machine that links to one of the sources quoted: [3] & [4] PNG mentioned as victors as recently as last year: [5] And confirmed in: [6] & [7] Guam mentioned as silver medallists in: [8]

That's just what I can find. If you do not deem that sufficient, then I will accept that judgement, though I think it would be a shame. I can accept that Wikipedia is not here to cater to everyone's whims though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratkiller75 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft: ASB GlassFloor

Hi Sulfurboy, I have disclosed my COI relationship to the article using the template given under: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_disclose_a_COI

Is there anything else which I need to do to remove the tag?

Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBurger9 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sulfurboy, any help/update would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBurger9 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 08:39:19, 27 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Klara29

• Klara29 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Leibniz Institute for the History and Culture of Eastern Europe (GWZO) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I'm writing to you because I'm getting really frustrated. This draft was declined for the third time and sorry, I don't get it. Other institutes of the Leibniz Association also have an article in Wikipedia. These institutes are completely comparable to the GWZO, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz_Institute_for_the_German_Language, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Contemporary_History_(Munich), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_for_Contemporary_History

Actually, I just translated this draft, this article already exists in the German Wikipedia. For years. See here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leibniz-Institut_für_Geschichte_und_Kultur_des_östlichen_Europa So why is this subject suitable for the German Version but not for the English one? There are, of course, published, reliable and secondary sources about the subject, but to be honest, not in English, but in German or some Eastern European languages. Therefore I decided not to use them. See here e.g. https://detektor.fm/serien/forschungsquartett-wissenschaft, https://www.lvz.de/Leipzig/Bildung/Geisteswissenschaftliches-Zentrum-in-Leipzig-wird-Leibniz-Institut, https://www.bmbf.de/de/geistes-und-sozialwissenschaften-152.html, https://www.l-iz.de/kultur/ausstellungen/2020/01/Studierende-der-Kunstgeschichte-zeigen-in-der-Alten-Nikolaischule-was-aus-Leipzigs-Stadtbild-alles-verschwunden-ist-312850 … So should I use these sources in the draft? I would be so grateful for a little help. Klara29 (talk) 08:39, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Klara29, What other articles do or don't exist doesn't matter. WP:INN The guideline you need to pass (as already explained on the draft page) is WP:GNG. This draft currently does not do so. And there's no restriction on the language of the sources you use. What matters is having secondary sources that show significant coverage of the subject that is not either WP:ROUTINE or WP:LOCAL Sulfurboy (talk) 14:14, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Please advise on rejected draft

Hello! Thanks for reviewing my draft article on Alpine Quantum Technologies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alpine_Quantum_Technologies). I would like to improve the article and was hoping you could let me know what parts of the article you consider subideal and expect to be addressed to make the article suitable for publication. In particular, I would like to inquire what part of the article you consider not neutral. Further, I am wondering if it is the nature of the sources that trouble you. Among the references are Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung and Neue Züricher Zeitung, two major European newspapers, and Der Standard, a major newspaper in Austria, which I thought would meet both the verifiability and notability criteria. Thank you. JohKof (talk) 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

JohKof, There's no issue with the sources. The problem is lines like "Several of the founders’ academic contributions over the last decades are considered major advancements". You want to avoid puffery language like this at all costs. If they have indeed made major advancements, then those will be self-apparent. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:20, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank You for your time (Draft:Natalia Boytsun)

Good afternoon, dear Sulfurboy, I thank you very much for your review and for the comments of my first article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Natalia_Boytsun I am not asking you to re-review my article, but taking into account that it’s my first article, could You be a little bit condescending to me and clarify your decision. I have tried to do my best and added all information I could find in the internet and libraries. Thank you again for your consideration.

Best regards, Andrii Tereshchuk — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriiTereshchuk (talk • contribs) 14:02, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

AndriiTereshchuk, Another editor already went into specific detail on what needs to be done back in January. It can be found on the draft's page. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I want to learn more about the proper wikipedia format and in particular, parts of my submission that are improper.

Hi. Thanks for your comments. If possible, I would like more feedback so that I can learn and make this submission in keeping with the Wikipedia format. I have done a fair amount of reading on Wikipedia, so I understand some basic requirements. My intention is only to provide simple facts about this non-profit, the Mother Earth Project, and its accomplishments and activities. Only that. Perhaps you could give me a few examples in my submission that you are particularly concerned about?

I look forward to your response! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barnfamilytrappe (talk • contribs) 15:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Barnfamilytrappe, You need to link to your article. I would check out WP:MOS if you have questions about formatting. Or you can visit the teahouse which is linked on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:37, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Request for further explanation on what would be a "reliable source"

Dear Sulfarboy

My article on "Maha Al-Saati" has been declined due to "unreliable references", and I would like to know why those articles I used as references are considered unreliable. The link to the post is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maha_Al-Saati

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndieSaudiFilm (talk • contribs) 15:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

You were provided with the necessary links on the draftpage to learn more about reliable sources. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you didn't read those articles, because if you did it would be readily apparent what sources used are very problematic (eg, instagram, wikipedia, etc.). Sulfurboy (talk) 15:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Re: London Youth Choirs

Dear Sulfurboy,

I politely contest your decision to reject my draft article, as I firmly believe that the subject matter of this article is of sufficient notability to warrant an article. I have included reliable secondary sources from industry recognised organisations such as Rhinegold and the Association of British Choral Directors. The organisation was founded by a highly regarded member of the industry and has patronage from internationally renowned musicians. The organisation appears regularly on national radio and television and appears at internationally renowned concert venues (as is referenced within the article - with references from independent organisations such as the BBC and the London Philharmonic Orchestra). I have ensured that this article is neutral in its composition with several independent references. I would also appreciate it if the article could be reviewed by an expert in the field - I personally don’t see how a member of the Wikipedia community with no expertise in the specific field can accurately judge the suitability of an article.

I appreciate your continued support and work to ensure Wikipedia is the best it can be,

Yours,

TobiasRagg2001 (talk) 18:46, 27 February 2020 (UTC)TobiasRagg2001

Hey,so as my first article I decided to write abput a local track athlete that is "rising" in the sport. My husband had suggested him as he used to be his soccer coach. Anyways, the article like is Draft:Gregoire_Marsot and you reviewed it stating that it was not notable enough. Care to explain why? I read the requirements, and sure the subject doesn't have a boston globe or NY times article (Theyll have one soon in fact), but they have entries on them by reputable sources for the sport. For example, any athlete from massachusetts would know Bay State Running and their interviews. Anyways, I was hoping maybe you could re-review it or even just give me some tips, I'm new to this:) Thanks Shopweston (talk) 03:58, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Shopweston, That subject has zero chance of passing any notability standards at this time. Sorry. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Sorry if i'm being repetitive but care to explain why? I did some reading on it, and sure, the person doesn't have millions of followers or has qualified for the Olympics but they have potential and the fact that the boston globe suggested an interview means that they are notable to some extent. In the track world he is very well known, and It's hard to show this in an article that's why I show the facts and times, and qualifications (as well as an interview now), which are meant to show notability. Im simply confused. Thanks:) Also how do i get it to be reviewed again? I feel bad wasting your time... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shopweston (talk • contribs) 04:11, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Because the subject fully fails WP:GNG and WP:NTRACK. None of the things you've pointed out will make a difference. The article has been outright rejected which means it will not be reviewed again. Again, the subject is not notable at this time and has zero chance of passing the requisite standards. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:17, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

uhhhh ok. Thanks for your kind words, slightly passive aggressive but thanks for everything:) Shopweston (talk) 04:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes, thank you Shopweston (talk) 04:38, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Statutory Foundation (US law) - updated

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Statutory_Foundation_(United_States) that you previously reviewed has been updated with notable secondary sources / references that would seem to meet the notability guidelines. There is no expectation of a re-review, just thought you should know. Thank you for all the work you do on Wikipedia. I'm very grateful. -- Divye (talk) 06:29, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Need Your Help For an Artist Page

Hi Sulfurboy, I added an artist page below and it declined after your review.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Cem_Bayoğlu

I am not so experienced user here so i checked necessary things for "Creative professionals" like Authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects and i found the requirements below;

• The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
• The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.
• The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
• The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

So, i added a paragraph with references of his unique works to the page again. (His other works and international exhibitions were already in that page)

I would be grateful if you can review again and correct If there is any wrong or missing information attempt.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cerrenfly (talk • contribs) 14:39, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your quick review on my draft and your other contributions on Wikipedia, you´re doing an amazing job! DariuZzandor 16:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Request on 17:31:06, 28 February 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ronaldo1948

• Ronaldo1948 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Matthews Southern Comfort (band) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thanks for your review. Advice please....as it is the References section you have issue with rather than the subject matter can I ask what you are looking for? I need to understand Notability as you see it, as we are looking here at an English band that was a spin-off from probably the most famous folk-rock band in music history, Fairport Convention. Googling Matthews Southern Comfort and their UK #1 Woodstock brings up masses of coverage...are you looking for things like Billboard or Rolling Stone from a US perspective or in the UK the two main music papers Melody Maker and New Musical Express? Is an article about MSC in the major UK newspaper The Guardian acceptable? Are online music sites like allmusic.com or seventiesmusic.com acceptable? Finally will you be the re-reviewer or will I have to wait months again if I correct the issue you have? Thanks in anticipation of your help in resolving this Notability thing.

Ronaldo1948 (talk) 17:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Requesting further clarification regarding rejection

Hello,

I see that my submission was rejected for the same reason it was previously rejected. Specifically: "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes." I was previously told the listed awards and fellowships were not properly cited. I corrected that issue and resubmitted the revised page. Will you please help me understand exactly where the additional citations are required or what I am missing regarding inline citation? Your help is very much appreciated.

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dahlma_Llanos-Figueroa

SoniaNoelia (talk) 18:01, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Neasa Hourigan

You declined, saying " Doesn't pass pol guidelines for notability or GNG guidelines for notability. "  ; you may not have noticed she's a member of the Irish legislature,. DGG ( talk ) 18:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

DGG, Ah yes, good catch. I just saw the city council bit. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:07, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

DGG, Went and approved it. Always feel free to resubmit or approve articles like this that I make a clear mistake on. I won't get offended. Thanks for the heads up though. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:45, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Review Draft for Scott Fedor

Hi! Thank you a million for all the help you've been giving me with this draft Scott Fodor. Specifically thank you for clarifying that I needed to remove the NPR and USNews sources and use a better secondary source. I have now added a citation of a nationally published book by Kevin Kilgore that covers Scott Fedor's story. The book has an ISBN and is nationally available on Google Books, Amazon, B & N, Books-a-Million and IndieBound. I hope that will fulfill the need for another national source? Citation 5 from Global Forum and citation 9 from Lehigh are also national publications. What's my next step? Do I need to hit something other than the "publish" button? Do I need to resubmit somehow? Thank you so much again for all of your excellent help! Laurie

Lauriechittenden (talk) 21:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Clarification on "Oneevent at best"

Hi, you recently reviewed an article, declined it, saying "This is WP:ONEEVENT at best."

Please forgive me up front for being a new author and asking newbie questions. Are you saying there is a "oneevent" category or way to have the article approved as a "oneevent?" How would I do this? Any further clarification is appreciated.

Link to article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Darryn_Melerine

Thecr8tve (talk) 23:09, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Thecr8tve, The oneevent comment links to the wikipedia policy about it. Sulfurboy (talk) 00:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Article on Peter Doell, second draft

Hi Sulfurboy,

Thanks a lot for taking the time to review my submission and providing feedback. It helped a lot. I've added more sources to support the fact that Peter Doell is a notable mastering engineer.

I would like to comment on the references I used, since the debatable question is not whether or not the subject is notable but rather if I have provided enough published, reliable, secondary and independent sources:

• Billboard Magazines' "Audio/Studio Track": this section's goal is to indicate which artists are producing at which locations and who the engineers and producers are. Thus, the whole section is comprised of passing mentions. The relevance of this source is that Billboard is probably the most recognized magazine in the music business and the fact that it provides evidence for notable highlights of Doell's career. • AllMusic: lists Doell's credits. This source is recognized by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS). • Music Connection and Mix Online: these are respected trade publications. The articles cited are not just passing mentions. One is, in fact, entirely dedicated to covering Doell. • Pasadena Star News: local newspaper. Dedicates a paragraph to Doell. • The Last Miles, Interview: author George Cole interviews Peter Doell who recorded Miles Davis' album "Tutu". The book "The Last Miles" covers Davis' last decade. • Prince: Life and Times: book that covers Prince's career. Recalls anecdote of Doell when he engineered Prince's "1999" album. • Bobby Owsinski: one of the most published authors in the music industry includes Doell in two episodes of his podcast.

I hope I have proved the need for Wikipedia to include this article.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Peter_Doell

Best!

TanookiKoopa — Preceding unsigned comment added by TanookiKoopa (talk • contribs) 01:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

TanookiKoopa, See response in decline on draft page. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

EeVe India

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:EeVe_India

The appropriate changes have been made. Please review the article again. The sole purpose of the article is to provide information to the people. It is nowhere aimed at advertising. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EeveIndia (talk • contribs) 13:52, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Your article has been outright rejected. Which means it will not be reviewed again. Sulfurboy (talk) 13:54, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Re YogaVidya.com

Hello Sulfurboy!

Thank you for your prompt evaluation of YogaVidya.com. I was afraid I would have to wait for weeks or even months.

We may be notable.

1) We publish the work of James Mallinson, the world’s foremost scholar on early Yoga.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mallinson_(author)

2) Our commitment to publish the final product was an essential component of successfully obtaining a European Research Council Consolidator Grant worth €1.85 million for a five-year, six-person research project on the history of Yoga.
http://www.londonhigher.eu/site/members/our-members/page.php?doc_id=88
http://hyp.soas.ac.uk/publications/

3) Our books have been publicly endorsed in writing by notable scholars.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Armstrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cardona
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_Modern_Yoga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashok_Aklujkar

4) Our books are widely collected by libraries. For example, the Wikidata page of the Hatha Yoga Pradipika contains eight identifiers.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84361166

5) The infobox and authority control did not appear to pull information from Wikidata, making the entry seem sparser.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q84852287

Let me know if you need more information.

Cinna Babu Cinna Babu (talk) 16:39, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Cinna Babu, You should disclose that you work for the company or represent them. It violates our rules to not disclose financial stakes or payments involved with creating an article. Further, it is highly discouraged for a company to write about itself. If your company is in fact notable, someone will write about it eventually. Your page was wholly promotional, there was nothing encyclopedic about it and no effort put in to properly show WP:GNG or WP:NCORP Sulfurboy (talk) 17:01, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

2020 Mid-American Conference football season article

Why Did you Decline It for Because it's too Soon And there's Red Links. GET YOUR LAZY BUTTS IN GEAR NOW. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 17:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Shaun Martin

Excuse me, but did you even bother to look at the ref cites before you tagged the Shaun Martin article. The ref cites on this article are not mere lists of references. As is my usual practice, the reference citations include the URL of the article cited, the title of the reference, the publisher, the date of publication if given, and the access date. This is more information than on many of the ref cites that I regularly correct. Yes, there were only three references initially used for the article, but others I found were Martin's own website (which has a webmaster who doesn't have his/her facts straight) and a number of other rather inaccurate puff pieces. GWFrog (talk) 19:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

GWFrog, Excuse me, it's a maintenance tag dude, get a grip. I looked at them and they're awful, missing, or incorrectly placed. There's no footnotes confirming what source the Grammy awards can be verified by (neither in the lead or awards section). BLP standards for inline citations are, well, to be inline, not just loosely placed at the beginning of a section like in the Early Life section. There's multiple claims in that early life section and it's not readily apparent which sources are confirming what. I also ask that if you're going to bring attitude to my talk page that you just post on the subject's talk page instead. I edit on here to relax and have fun not to deal with childish drama. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Excuse me...sorry if I came on strong... Not having one of my better days. I see your point about the multiple refs as "Sources"; it's that there were multiple references saying the same things, so I did a combination paraphrase for the text. As for the lack of ref cites on the Grammy awards, I was previously told rather strongly by an administrator that, when items like that are linked to another Wikipedia article where it is cited, then citing it is redundant and incorrect procedure, so I have left a number of similar entries without ref cites that I will now relocate and add cites to in the next dew days, GWFrog (talk) 23:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

GWFrog, No worries. We all have those days. And yeah that's a new one for me, but I guess that makes sense to some extent, but also to me would go against the idea that Wikipedia can't use itself as a source. I just came back from a few years hiatus, so I may have forgotten that or it's a policy change in the time I've been gone. DGG, would you mind confirming that's true? ("I was previously told rather strongly by an administrator that, when items like [major awards] are linked to another Wikipedia article where it is cited, then citing it is redundant and incorrect procedure") Sulfurboy (talk) 00:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

In general, :It is much better to specifically cite all major awards on the bio page, even if they are listed elsewhere. They should ideally be cited to an official announcement of the award from the organization that gave them, or a major news story about it. If necessary, a citation can be made to a reliable source on the person, which lists the awards, but my experience is that such sources are not always as reliable as they ought to be, and sometimes get exact titles wrong. Referencing them to an official bio of the person on their web site is sometimes necessary, but referencing to a PR handout is dubious, because they often get things wrong, usually by wording things so the awards seems more imprortant than it actually is.

However, if there is a link to a WP page which provides--and cites -- the same information, the material should not be removed, but the reference can be copied. But this will depend on the specific situation, which I need to look at further. GWFrog It would help me to have a link to the advice given you. DGG ( talk ) 07:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

I went back yesterday and added ref cites to the official Grammy listings for each year on the Shaun Martin article and will be doing the same on a couple of others articles. As for the notice I was given, I deleted it from my talk page long ago, and I have no idea who the admin was. If, like some folks, I kept everything that went onto my talk page, it would take hours to try to find anything there, and any new entries would be waaay down there...LOL Today, I also eliminated ref list in the "Early life" section with individual cites in the text. And so it goes... GWFrog (talk) 18:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

The Gentleman Losers article

Hi Sulfurboy,

Thanks for the prompt review of my article draft on the band The Gentleman Losers. You declined it on the basis of, and I quote your reply, "This appears to be a duplicate of another submission, The Gentlemen Losers, which is also waiting to be reviewed. To save time we will consider the other submission and not this one."

As you can see, either the title of that article has a different spelling, a wrong one, in this case (the name of the band in my submission is indeed officially spelled "gentleman", not "gentlemen" – this can easily be verified by any of the external links in my draft; the grammatical correctness of this spelling is not a matter concerning us), or we are dealing with another band altogether.

Can you please double check the content of other article you mentioned. If the subject matter is the same as in mine, the fact that already the title has a typo in it would suggest to me that my article might indeed be the one to consider for publication. If it's another band with differently spelled name, then there is no problem with duplicity.

I'm obviously very new to this, but eager to learn more. I wasn't able to view that other article submission. Is there a way for me to do this?

Here's mine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Valasti/sandbox

All the best, and looking forward to your comments!

Valasti (talk) 21:01, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Valasti, Hey sorry about that. I believe I wrote Gentlemen instead of Gentleman which is why the link in the decline message wasn't work. Look like Theroadislong was nice enough to fix it for us. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy Thanks for the clarification! So indeed there is another submission. But it seems that it was already declined? How does that work, then, if I may be so ignorant? My article can't get reviewed on account of there being another one on the same subject, even though that one wasn't accepted for publication? So what happens next? Any further clarification is much appreciated! :) Valasti (talk) 23:03, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Valasti, The effort of getting the subject published to wikipedia needs to be condensed to one article. So if you want to continue working on yours, put a note on the other page's talk page to that effect and resubmit when you feel it is ready to be reviewed. Alternatively, you can move stuff over you might have from yours to the other one and not really have to worry about leaving a note as yours has already been declined for duplication. (if that makes sense) Sulfurboy (talk) 00:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy Thanks, very much appreciate the info! Valasti (talk) 13:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 06:24:44, 1 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by THUPAMP

• THUPAMP (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Kemono Cafe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello there,

I examined the Wikipedia rules and do believe that this does meet the criteria as there are sources via the website and on the Wikifur page that I linked. Please provide more details as a way to resolve this issue.

THUPAMP (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

THUPAMP, I would recommend re-reading those policies, because they clearly point out how the company's website or a website like "wikifur" are not enough at all to denote notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:44, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

What reputable sources Wikipedia is looking for?

Hi, I just wanted to give feedback on my recent request to new page generation (declined twice) for Draft:International_Institute_of_Molecular_and_Cell_Biology_in_Warsaw. This is one of the top reserach institute in Poland which already present in Polish Wikipedia. I agree that first draft was lacking proper references. But in second draft, just to give it more 'wide' references, I had added references from Europion Union websites as well from Nature (journal) article. If you think this are not 'wide' enough references, I don't know what are. In future, please be specific about your definitation of 'wide' references for such article creations so that we will not put our efforts to make them or search for them. -- Rohitsuratekar (talk) 08:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Rohitsuratekar, We need to see significant coverage from independent sources. This is all outlined, including links to the pages explaining the policies on the draft page. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Adequate Support From Reliable Sources

Hi, Sulfurboy. Hope you're well. Just getting in touch regarding my article which you rejected yesterday. Your note mentioned a lack of reliable sources. This has left me somewhat confused given that the article repeatedly cites a number of broadsheet newspapers with direct coverage for the subject. This includes BBC News, The Times, The Telegraph, The Metro, Yorkshire Post, Varsity, and Corriere della Serra. Could you please clarify what more is required to adequately source this article, or whether there are any sources which should be amended so this article can be published. All the best, Doogierev.

Doogierev (talk) 23:44, 01 March 2020 (UTC)

Kindly check the re-submission. AfC: Vinu Kolichal PS: Additional References and External Links are added.

Link for Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Vinu_Kolichal

Submission declined on 29 February 2020 by Sulfurboy (talk). This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia. If you would like to continue working on the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window. If you have not resolved the issues listed above, your draft will be declined again and potentially deleted. If you need extra help, please ask us a question at the AfC Help Desk or get live help from experienced editors. Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted. Where to get help How to improve your article Editor resources Declined by Sulfurboy 30 hours ago. Last edited by Filmfanatic28 9 hours ago. Reviewer: Inform author. This draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review.

Clarification regarding reliable sources

Link for Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Moneymax

Hi Sulfurboy! Thanks for reviewing my article. I just want to know what type of reliable sources Wikipedia needs. All the sources I included in the articles are from reliable and established sources here in the Philippines. I even included some from TechinAsia and an interview from Bloomberg. I also removed parts of the article that came off as advertisement to comply with Wikipedia's neutral tone. Do I need to add more international sources? Because our company only operates in the Philippines. Does that affect our notability? Hope you can help clarify things. Thanks!

TeetotaleRicky (talk) 07:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

TeetotaleRicky, We need to see significant coverage of the subject that is separate from just WP:ROUTINE coverage. Sulfurboy (talk) 08:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

How do you upload articles directly instead of doing it via the Wizard?

Hello! First and foremost, thank you for your help with my drafts. My question is how I upload an article directly instead of doing it the way I'm doing it now. I don't really understand how to do it through the information you gave me on my talk page, so I just wanted to ask here. Have a nice day! Zandor (talk) 11:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, click the link that says "create articles yourself" that is posted in the most recent message on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 11:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I am blind, haha. I have read that page before but didn't notice the box where you can create articles. Thanks! Zandor (talk) 11:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Curvature_Renormalization_Group_Method

Dear Sulfurboy, Can you please answer to my question and elaborate on your rejection of my article when you say "This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter."? What more context do I need to write? I see many pages on technical topics that simply refer to other articles for a more general description of the field. I would like to avoid duplicating what's already written on pages like "topologically ordered systems". Thank you. Here is the link to the page:

PaoloMolignini (talk) 13:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

PaoloMolignini, If you see other pages that don't provide proper context, feel free to tag them with the appropriate maintenance tags. What we're specifically looking for as at a minimum a one or two line quip at the beginning of the article that provides context to the uninitiated reader. That is, imagine a friend ask you about this subject and has zero knowledge of it...how do you explain it? When this is done, feel free to tag me so I can re-review and most likely approve it. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Dear Sulfurboy, I have updated the article with more contextual information at the beginning. Please let me know if this is ok or if I should add more. Cheers, PaoloMolignini (talk) 16:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Mary Jane Warfield and Her Significance.

Hello! I recently began a page about Mary Jane Warfield and I want to personally make the case to you why she is a notable figure, not just a wife or mistress of a house. If you're not familiar with Kentucky history, I can understand why it's hard to imagine how prominent the Clay family is. Well, you might recognize the names Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser, or Cassius Clay, the Kentucky abolitionist, but you might not recognize the phenomenal women who also contributed to society in a meaningful manner. Laura Clay, the daughter of Mary Jane, was inspired by the bitter divorce of Mary Jane and Cassius to advocate for women's equality in the 19th century. Again, the 19th century, in Kentucky!! Mary Jane would canvass the streets of Lexington to recruit women to support women's suffrage. Susan B. Anthony mourned her death in 1900, citing her as a major inspiration.

I also view this Wikipedia page as a defense against the memory that was perpetrated by Cassius. Cassius called her a cold, spiteful woman. He blamed their divorce on her and deprived her of any property from the marriage, and if you remember from my article, she was the primary caretaker while he was carrying on affairs in Russia. She raised 80,000 dollars with her businesses to pay off Cassius's debts and helped her family not just survive, but thrive. She ran a business as essentially a single mother for two decades in a time where women were thought to be the weaker sex and in need of help for the most simple tasks. So her actions do warrant a page. If her husband, a man who advocated for the freedom of slaves, but kept slaves himself, and who married a 15-year-old girl while he was in his 80s, has a page, then the woman that kept his family and his name alive also deserves a page. Mary Jane Warfield is an example of exceptional grit and perseverance and can serve as an inspirational figure for many southern women.

I will continue to work on Mary Jane's page in hopes of having it published. Thank you for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 13:32, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Ashleigh King, None of anything that you just said has anything to do with the standards we use to establish notability. I would recommend reading the guidelines provided in the decline messages to learn what needs to be done to establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi again Sulferboy! I have continued my educational journey into the life of Ms. Mary Jane Warfield, the Lionness of White Hall, if you will (a small joke because Cassius was called the Lion of White Hall. No known historians actually called her that to be clear:)) My research certainly did not disappoint! She has shown to be an instrumental force in the passage of the Married Woman's Property Act of 1894, which protected women from economic exploitation. She remained an energetic presence within the suffrage movement up until her death in 1900. She truly shows the influential actions taken by Kentucky women that further the rights and protections of women across the south in the 19th century. I hope you enjoy the additions to the article as well as more primary resources. Thank you and have a lovely day! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mary_Jane_Warfield Ashleigh King — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleigh King (talk • contribs) 22:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Feminists for Free Expression - Additional Sources Added

Hi Surfboy,

Thank you for your comments on Feminists for Free Expression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Feminists_for_Free_Expression

I have added a number of what I believe qualify as reliable secondary sources, all of which refer to the subject, verify statements made in the entry, and attest to the subject's notability. As you will note, the new sources include articles from 1993, as well as books from 1994 to 2013. I hope this suffices. Thank you for your comments.

1. J. Green & N. Karolides, Encyclopedia of Censorship, New Edition (2005).

2. Christopher M. Finan, From the Palmer Raids to the Patriot Act: A History of the Fight for Free Speech in America (2007).

3. Debbie Nathan, Pornography (2007).

4. Leigh Ann Wheeler, How Sex Became a Civil Liberty (2013).

5. Jennifer Hurley (ed.), Feminism: Opposing Viewpoints (2001).

6. Jeffrey Rosen, The Unwanted Gaze: The Destruction of Privacy in America (2000).

7. Nan Levinson, Outspoken: Free Speech Stories (2003).

8. Bonnie Zimmerman (ed.), Lesbian Histories and Cultures: An Encyclopedia, vol. 1 (2000).

9. Nadine Strossen, Defending Pornography: Free Speech, Sex, and the Fight for Women's Rights (2000).

10. Edward J. Cleary, Beyond Burning the Cross (1994).

11. Rene Denfeld, The New Victorians (1995).

12. Donald E. Levy, Dorothy E. Roberts & Russel L. Weaver (eds.), First Amendment Anthology (1994).

13. Wendy McElroy, XXX: A Woman's Right to Pornography (1995).

14. Robert Trager & Donna L. Dickerson, Freedom of Expression in the 21st Century (1999).

15. Banning Erotic Words and Pictures Will Not Reduce Sexual Harassment", in Louise L. Gerdes (ed.), Sexual Harassment (1999).

16. Jeffrey Rosen, "Reasonable Women", The New Republic (1 Nov. 1993).

17. Donna Laframboise, The Princess at the Window: A new gender morality (1996).

18. Marcy Scheiner, "Is there Sex in Sexual?", Future Sex, Issue 5 (1993)

Thanks again. AlexaVamos (talk) 13:54, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Reliable Sources clarification

Greeting Sulfurboy! I am writing because I would appreciate further clarification for the reason you have denied Draft: Wise Blood (Musician) to article mainspace. You cite the need for reliable sources and this confuses me. The sources I have used for the article include news outlets like The New York Times, BBC Radio 1, and The Guardian as well as music outlets like Pitchfork, MTV, Fader, FACT and Stereogum. Is there a particular section or claim that you are referring to that needs a reliable source? This is not meant to dispute your assessment I would just like to correct and improve the article however I can. Thank you!--Mapmaker88 (talk) 14:47, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Mapmaker88, I'm not sure why you're asking for clarification. It looks like the one edit you have made was to remove the wikipedia source, so it seems you have at least a solid grasp of what is and isn't considered reliable. A good criterion to judge a source is to ask three questions: 1) Is this a self-reported source? 2) Is the information provided done so by a reliable person or journalist? (not user created on a forum, blog post, etc.) 3) Does the source impart information on the subject in a neutral manner?

Sulfurboy, thank you for your response! I appreciate any help and feedback I can get while trying to edit and improve my first article. Cheers!

Draft:BioSerenity

Hello,

I'm working on my first article in English. I started with a translation of the French language but it seems the language and the sources did not fit the expectations. I've made modifications following your recommendations. Let me know what you think. I added several reputable sources in French (national newspapers from Switzerland and France) and English (UK and US sources). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaheris fils de lot (talk • contribs) 15:03, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 15:13:53, 2 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Robertwilding

• Robertwilding (talk · contribs)
  • User:Robertwilding/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi mate

I've copied this and made it english. this one has less links and got accepted.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Pirchan

Robertwilding (talk) 15:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Robertwilding, You have zero properly formatted references or inline citations. Please review WP:CS Sulfurboy (talk) 15:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:First Derm

Hey!

Thank you so much for checking the page. I notice you mention that I must disclose if there is a conflict of interest. I did do this on my page I think you can see it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fderm - I could have gone about this the wrong way though so please let me know if this is wrong.

There is a page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisualDx - that i'm trying to follow but I'm unsure how to make sure i'm not breaking any guidelines.

Thank you again for your feedback,

Oliver — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 15:35, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, Disclosure must take place on the draft page as well. You need to properly disclose either your financial stake in the subject and or the pay you are receiving in your role with the company. Please note that companies and/or employees of said companies are highly discouraged from creating pages about themselves. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

OK great thank you very much for feedback. Apologies for not disclosing on draft page, I'll read into where I disclose now. I'm unpaid so not sure how i prove that but I set up an account with Fderm for transparency (so that you know i am linked) I do know the Doctor involved. It was in light of the Visualdx page I thought i'd add a page for them. I will make changes now and disclosure. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 16:01, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, I'm confused. How can you be an employee of the company, but not being paid for this? Please note that being a salaried employee still counts as being paid for creating the page. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm not an employee nor am I paid by them - I will ask if there is a way i can prove this. I have known the Doctor (Dr. Alexander Börve) for a long time and so I thought I'd try set up a page since I noticed the visualdx page. Just to be clear - i do know the Doctor who owns the company and therefore i have a conflict of interest but there is no exchanging of money in this. Hoped that I could make it neutral but i have limited experience on wiki pages hence the confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fderm (talk • contribs) 16:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Fderm, It's highly recommended that you do not continue to write this article. People with a strong of conflict of interests such as you do with this subject are highly encouraged not to create articles about it. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

World Gardens

Hello Sulfurboy! Thanks for your notes about my article entitled "Draft/World Gardens", which appears not matching the basics to be accepted. Of course, I've read all the guidelines and I'm quite surprised that the sources indicated are not enough nor useful for you. This Cd got radio promotion and airplay in the US via JazzWeek and received several reviews by some main jazz magazines/websites in the US and in Europe, which should be considered correct sources (some of them are included in Wikipedia). Also the Cd World Gardens is included in All Music and other quotes include JazzTimes, the IAJRC Journal etc. In a word, it's a known album in the international jazz community (even if it's not a famous one nor a hit) as well as Silver's Serenade, for example, which I've kept as a reference as it's a known album by Horace Silver even if not a famous one nor a hit. When comparing the requested basic conditions to the sources I've indicated (the most of them with active links on the web), I don't understand what's missing nor why those sources aren't enough (what more/else, for the world of jazz/jazz community?). Please, I'd appreciate a lot your feedback and clarification and help, please, to possibly receive your positive review and get this article published. FYI: in the mean time I've also submitted a more new article entitled "Draft/Live in Miami @ The WDNA Jazz Gallery", which also contains relevant sources as Down Beat a.o. I'm looking forward to your feedback. Best, Robmag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robmag (talk • contribs) 16:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_J._Smith_(artist)

Hi Sulfurboy, I hope this note finds you doing well. I'm wondering how the article I submitted doesn't meet the notability guideline. Chris Troutman said in his initial review that confirmation of the artist's work in the Tesla Museum would be _enough alone_ for notability. I confirmed with the museum's director, Jane Alcorn. Additionally this artist's innovative techniques were recently featured on the Science Channel's How It's Made show, which is also in itself notable and exactly meets Creative Professionals #2: "The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique." Only the best at what they do are featured on that show, in other words, notable for making something. This artist and one of his weather vanes also already appears on the Wikipedia page for Texas Country Reporter, and his work appears on some other Wikipedia pages as well. I believe all the references I've provided are solid. Please let me know what else I could do to meet the article's requirement.

Thanks for all you do! --Loren Cluffs

You say the subject was covered in the WSJ and Houston Chronicle, but I'm not seeing those sources referenced in the page, those might help a lot of if they are indeed significant coverage of the subject. The Daily Kos article is user submitted and not under the purview of their editorial board meaning it is not reliable. Linking to how its made's page is not a proper source. Nor is maps.org/resources/links. So what we're left with is copper.org, a subject that presumably would have a pretty large bias to cover otherwise non-notable subjects and two tv appearances. The How It's Made show didn't cover the subject but instead showed one of his sculptures in the coverage of a much broader subject and another at best slightly notable, but relatively local and unwatched tv show. This is simply not enough to get there as this time. Again, what's going to be helpful is if the HC and WSJ articles actually show significant coverage. As a fellow Texan I'm rooting for this article and is part of the reason I spent so much time on this reply. But that cheering for you and still finding it ot be a decline should be evident enough that just doesn't pass at the moment. Best of luck. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:06, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Linda Plazonja

Hi,

Thank you for your review of my first page. I work for the Mayor of a town in Massachusetts and she asked me to post a Wikipedia Page for her. I guess I did it wrong. I am not sure why. Can you help? The name of the page is Ruthanne Fuller. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Linda Plazonja (talk • contribs) 20:44, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Linda Plazonja, Messages with what you did wrong and what needs to be done were posted on the draft page and your user page I would advise reading them. Wikipedia is not the place to promote your mayor. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_J._Smith_(artist)

Sulfurboy--thanks so much for the very personal response. I agree with your critique of the article, am trying to locate other articles that appeared in the Houston Chronicle, WSJ, and the Austin Statesman. It must be a headache to handle all the new page reviews. Hopefully my article wasn't _too_ riddled with errors. Thanks again, your Texas cheerleading is most appreciated. :)

Comment: This should be outright rejected if its submitted again without any effort put into improving it. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2020 (UTC) - Why?

Can you please help? What am I doing wrong? I am just trying to add documentation like there are for every band out there.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reconnoise (talk • contribs) 21:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Take A Daytrip page

Hello!!

I am trying to publish the Take A Daytrip page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Take_A_Daytrip.

I've made all the recent edits and noticed that you had said the article has been bombarded with non-useful links.

Pretty much everything I have included does mention the duo as a notable producers and have them listed with production credits. I will go through and remove some of the links which do not directly apply, but is there anything else I can do to get this page approved?

Their songs have been nominated for Grammy Awards and have been released by major labels. I would like to understand how I can make this page more applicable for Wikipedia.

Thank you!

Aliciasue.cote (talk) 21:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Aliciasue.cote, I went through 20 random links. Only three of them even mentioned Take Daytrip and zero of them in an either reliable, or a significant manner. I would highly recommend reading the articles that have been linked to you multiple times now if you truly are interested in correcting this article. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:46, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Rejection of draft-Please help

Dear Sulfurboy, my recent article submission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vladperez/sandbox was rejected by you due to that this topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia and this submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. I have reviewed the article and added new valid references and content to it. I have checked the Wikipedia:Notability and the subject of the article is an insurance agency that is not currently listed in Wikipedia. Currently, there are articles for other related companies such as Geico, Progressive, and Infinity. I have also checked the Wikipedia:Five pillars and I don’t see why this submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Could you please advise how to improve this article in order to be published? I am a new user, and I am looking to improve as much as possible. I would really appreciate your feedback and look forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you in advance!Vladperez (talk) 22:28, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Vladperez, The article has been outright rejected. It will not be considered any further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:29, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Prince Leonard

I have declined your G6 for Prince Leonard. It's not clear to me that Draft:Leonard Casley should be moved to that name (as opposed to Leonard Casley. Maybe it should but it's got a tad too much editorial judgement in my mind for a G6. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:35, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Barkeep49, Hmm, not sure what happened, I don't know if I somehow clicked the wrong redirect or something else was moved in the meantime by Robert McClenon as he was trying to clear space, but my intent was to request CSD for Leonard Casley. Again, not sure what happened, as a lot of redirects coming from different places seem to be a hot mess right now and I'm probably not the best at sorting it out. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:42, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:52:02, 2 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Djb2183

• Djb2183 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Barry's Bootcamp (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, thanks for the feedback on this page for Barry's. Can you please give me some specific detail on how or where it reads like an ad? I'm happy to adjust where necessary, but I thought I wrote this in a pretty neutral, objective tone, and I cited a ton of reputable sources. Thanks for your help!

Djb2183 (talk) 22:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Social Ecology entry submission

Dear Sulfurboy. Thank you for reviewing my draft entry on social ecology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Social_Ecology. I'd like to get some clarification regarding your rejection (29 February 2020). You wrote:

"This submission reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article. Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research."

I'm a little confused because the entry is a summary of social ecology, which of course entails stating the social-political positions associated with this tradition as well as its critics. In my revisions I've added a few more words to make it clear I'm describing this point of view, not endorsing it. But I'd appreciate it if you would identify specific examples where you believe it reads "like an essay" or places where it "contains opinions." Most of the references are in fact the same that can found on the Murray Bookchin wiki page, including books from academic publishers, articles from academic journals, and the New York Times. The texts I cite are either secondary sources on social ecology, or primary sources to give direct examples of the ideas under consideration.

You also wrote: "Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view in an encyclopedic manner. This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject."

Again, if you could point to specific excerpts you feel are not neutral or formal in tone, and terms you feel are "peacock." The only I could imagine was the line stating Bookchin is a "pioneering environmental thinker," but this is in fact true - he's one of the foundational figure of political ecology. As his wiki page states: "A pioneer in the ecology movement,[4] Bookchin formulated..."

I publish regularly in peer-reviewed academic journals and am familiar with conventions regarding scholarly tone; I have a hard time seeing where you think this text deviates from those norms. I also had a professional editor look at the text, they also found it to be descriptive rather than normative.

Thanks again for your time, looking forward to your response.

LewisOakleyHerber (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the assistance. I've made the required changes.

I updated the article "William Cooper (American Rapper)" to clearly disambiguate from the Author William Cooper.

Thanks for the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentle Jones (talk • contribs) 23:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, Sulfurboy. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

• Wikipedia:Requested moves
• Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 23:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 06:40:56, 3 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by GiedreCasaite

• GiedreCasaite (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Public Anthropologist (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

If my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Public_Anthropologist can't be published due to the lack of notability, why for example this draft is published https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matatu_(journal) with less information and lack of notability as well?

GiedreCasaite (talk) 06:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

GiedreCasaite, You're welcome to nominate that page for deletion if you wish. I didn't make/approve/perform edits on that page at all so I'm not sure why you're asking me. You should focus on your own article instead of attempting to bring others down and I'd advise reading WP:INN as well. Sulfurboy (talk) 06:42, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Writing about a company

Hi, I am trying to write an article about an architecture company UArchitects (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:UArchitects) but it is declined more than once. I have seen some articles on wikipedia with same format with a list of company awards for example CEBRA. Can you kindly tell me how I can publish this article without making it sound like an advertisement? And how can I list the data about the company's awards and projects? Thank you for your help.--Meimaar.93 (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Meimaar.93, The entire article is basically a menagerie of the companies (mostly non-notable) awards. That's not what wikipedia is for and that is not what makes for a formal, neutral article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Yehiel Gozal

Hi there, I saw what you wrote but I dont really understand... there are 7 References and 5 Links, also there is the Hebrew version. The whole thing is just to add more cites? there are many many more.. Thanks, Dovlib19 (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2020 (UTC).

New page for Diamond Guitar Pedals

Hey, thanks for reviewing my submission for a Diamond Pedals Wikipedia page. I will add more links to external sources, but I note that the article currently has similar references as other boutique guitar pedal manufactures, such as Wampler Pedals and Keeley Electronics, which are very similar companies. I would appreciate and advice you might be able to give, since I really do think Diamond warrants a Wikipedia page.

Many Thanks! Matthewasears (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Wingsuit BASE jumping

This article Draft:Wingsuit BASE jumping was declined because there is already a section in "Wingsuit flying" about "Wingsuit BASE": Wingsuit_flying#Wingsuit_BASE. However, wingsuit BASE jumping is a sub-discipline of wingsuit flying. Wingsuit skydiving is not the same as wingsuit BASE. And there is a huge amount of detail and content in the new article that is missing from the more general "wingsuit flying" article.

My goal was to reduce the content in the "wingsuit flying" article abount BASE, and move it to the new article here. Is that not okay? I believe wingsuit BASE jumping is notable on it's own, there are 100s of articles and papers about Wingsuit BASE specifically to support it's own article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWingsuit (talk • contribs) 16:48, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiWingsuit, You need to create an article that goes much more in depth than what is already available on the aforementioned mainspace article. The content on the article you submitted was not enough more yet to justify its own article. Sulfurboy (talk) 16:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

RE: William Cooper (Record Producer)

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:William_Cooper_(Record_Producer)

Thank you kindly for your response.

After your initial response, I agreed that the references should be updated. And I updated the article title for disambiguation. I apologize if I did anything ham-fisted. Its simply because I post so rarely.

I only update Wikipedia when I have something to say. The tools built in are useful and powerful, however since I only add occasionally, I end up doing an hour or two of coding. Which is fine, I think it works for me and I am willing to learn it better. I am an expert in this particular article's subject, but not an expert at Wikipedia. But I am trying.

I also realize the discography its not entirely referenced. However, I can indeed link every release to a discogs.com page. They do exist and the dates and personnel are correct. I see many other artists on Wikipedia have a secondary page for discographies, but since William Cooper is not on wikipedia yet (except for references in other articles already published) I don't know how to place the discography on a secondary page like other artists. I am happy to delete the discography and once the main article is published I can create the secondary article with a table more in line with what most other music artists have listed.

Please let me know if you want me to link each release to a discogs.com page or nuke the entire discography from this article. I am happy to update as needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gentle Jones (talk • contribs) 19:37, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Gentle Jones, I again advise you to read the links already provided. Discogs is not a reliable source. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:00, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Article content is authorized, I am the Finance Director of the organization

Good evening Mr. Sulfurboy,

I please request you contemplate the approval of the article since we want to have presence in Wikipedia as we think it would be important for our community. El Centro Hispano has consistently proven its worth to the community of Arkansas as a whole and would be greatly benefited by this appearance on such a reputable online encyclopedia.

I thank you for your time and consideration,

Kind regards,

Leandro Braslavsky El Centro Hispano Finance Director

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:El_Centro_Hispano_en_Arkansas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leandrob1 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Leandrob1, We don't include subjects just because it would benefit that subject. We also highly discourage people associated with a subject from writing about it. You will need to read and follow all of our policies closely if you insist on continuing to create this article. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:43, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I will. Thanks for your time and your advise.

Leandro Leandrob1 (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Your declining on a draft I created

Hi, I saw you recently declined my draft Draft:Garissone Innocent. I replied to you on that page, but:

1. you kind of misunderstood me;
2. I have a feeling that it is not the right place for replying.

Therefore, I've visited your talk page to clarify myself.

When I replied to your comment, I meant that it's quite likely that the subject would be notable in a few years (possibly 1 or 2). (I guess you understood that part.) But I wasn't asking for you to accept it right away. Rather, I meant that since Innocent would "probably" be notable soon, I'd like to know if you think that this draft should be listed as "promising". After all, I have a few other drafts to work on, and given my workload it seems likely that it might be deleted under G13. Besides, adding it to the category Promising drafts brings them to more people's attention (at least for me ;) ), so I'd like to ask if you agree to placing this "promising draft" tag on the draft. Thanks! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 05:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The Lord of Math, You can add whatever tag you want to to the article, its your article. However, this doesn't guarantee against it not being deleted in six months Sulfurboy (talk) 14:41, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

@Sulfurboy: I guess you didn't understand how {{promising draft}} works. The thing is, it should not be placed by the page author, and if it is placed it would postpone G13 deletion. So I'm here to ask you if you'd agree that the topic is "promising" and if you would place that template on the draft. Thanks, and I hope I've made myself clearer! tLoM (The Lord of Math) (Message) 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The Lord of Math, No interest. Sulfurboy (talk) 15:08, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

‪Commelina ciliata

And thank you for taking interest in an obscure Australian plant! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commelina_ciliata MerielGJones (talk) 09:52, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Not being paid

I am not being paid. GriffinTGA (talk) 12:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello there

Hello can you please check the article you reviewed Daft:Fredokiss i saw your the reason posted and i have improve and edited. Thank you waiting for your review. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:36, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

My bad i meant Draft:Fredokiss Mwnive5 (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Fredokiss is one of the mojor artist in africa malawi including Gwamba taygrin am here to help Wikipedia by contributing africa artist articles as you suggested i have improve the article and ready to start another one just waiting for your approval thank you. Mwnive5 (talk) 14:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Scarlett Sabet Wiki Page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Scarlett_Sabet

Hi there.

I have never ignored or bypassed this as the previous edit comment suggests, I disclosed in one of my earliest edits that I was writing on behalf of the company I work for - I do concede that I may have done it incorrectly, though, so thank you for clearing that up for me. My page is now suitably updated with the disclosure.

Does this mean the now heavily media-sourced article is suitably updated, or is there anything else I need to add or change to meet the Wikipedia guidelines? Given that Scarlett is referenced as the official partner of Jimmy Page on his page, as well as in numerous publications for her contributions to the poetry world, it seems that claims that she is unsuitable for her own page are unfounded.

I understand that you must do a lot of editing and that this can be a tiresome, fruitless labour at times, so thank you for your contributions to making Wikipedia an accurate and informative place and for your patience with my edits. Do let me know if there are still errors to amend.

Best, Megan — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeganThomas94 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

MeganThomas94You have not properly disclosed on the draft page. The article is also still riddled with unreliable sources. If you truly are thankful for my "tiresome, fruitless labour" then please make a point of actually reading our policies instead of making contributions even more tiresome and fruitless. Or better yet, cease entirely your edits on the subject, and cease the unethical paid for editing as you have an inherent bias and conflict of interest.Sulfurboy (talk) 15:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

What qualifies as reference???

04 Mar. 2020 I'm new. Maybe I'm missing something. I wrote an article on an historically significant subject using six published newspaper references and the article was rejected for lack of authentication. Many of the incidents cited are 100 years old. It is not a well publicized event. Newspaper articles are about the only documentation that exists. I'm at a loss. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barbara_Fritchie_Classic_Motorcycle_Race

Zook — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.30.109 (talk) 18:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

The problem isn't with the sources already provided, the problem is that there's no shown coverage that isn't just WP:LOCAL

Redirect to my recently made article Fjärilar i magen (Darin album)

Hello! I recently made a page for the studio album Fjärilar i magen (Darin album), but did not realize that it existed a redirect already to, what I believe is, the Darin Zanyar page. I don't know if I did something wrong making that article now, and I was just wondering if there is a way to redirect from the page to my article instead. I will look deeper for redirects the next time I make an article, unfortunately I noticed it too late this time. I wanted to make the article since there were only articles for his English albums, which I found pretty unfortunate. Thanks in advance! Zandor (talk) 18:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, I've requested the redirect to be removed so that the album page can be put in place. Just keep an eye out for when an admin deletes it and I can help get this moved into place. Sulfurboy (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I would like to make an article for the album "Tvillingen" by him also, but since it also redirects to Darin Zanyar, is there anything I must do before creating the article? I don't want to give you more work than you already have so I would like to help out as much as I possibly can. Thank you again! Zandor (talk) 19:50, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

DariuZzandor, You can always check with me. I don't mind that. However, I've been known to without warning disappear for years, so I might not be the most reliable outlet. In which case, you can always go to the Teahouse for help. The Teahouse is also a great outlet for anything Wikipedia related that you might need help with. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I understand :) I appreciate that you take the time to help me, I'm new to creating articles so your tips are very helpful. We'll see if I get enough information to make the article about "Tvillingen", is it okay if I get back to you If that happens and we can see if you want/ have the time to help me with it? I will check out the Treehouse also, for sure. Zandor (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Bad Cop/Bad Cop - Not adequately supported by reliable sources.

Dear Sulfurboy, since this is my first submission I obviously trust your opinion and judgment, and I'm sorry to have sent twice an article that was very similar to its first version (in fact I had just add two more links as a ref) but the few changes I've made were done following two very similar articles related two other two bands with similar timing and coverage than the one I'm trying to add (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masked_Intruder - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bombpops) I am telling this just to properly understand at which point the source became reliable and enough "strong" if you can make me a parallel example so that I can clearly understand. Thanks for your help and patience in this matter. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paiskurt (talk • contribs) 19:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Paiskurt, I would recommend reading the articles linked to you. It should become very apparent and clear afterwards what are and aren't considered reliable along with what is required for notability. I'm not sure why you are pointing out the other two articles to me. I didn't approve them or make any edits to them. If you feel they do not follow wikipedia policy, you are welcome to nominate them for nomination. See also WP:INN Sulfurboy (talk) 19:40, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, Thanks again fro your reply, I did read the article and at point 5) says "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)" which both the band and the label, Fat Wreck Chords, seems to me to respect this criteria. Thank you also for the other article linked it made me clear other aspects. Paiskurt (talk) 21:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Paiskurt, I'm going to fix the article enough so that it passes our guidelines. I grew up listening to NOFX and have loved them and Fat Mike for decades now, so I think 16 year old me would be disappointed if I didn't. With that being said, although this will be approved and hit mainspace, I'm going to tag it with some things that you need to do to improve the article further. The biggest one being is that this article hinges almost entirely on primary sources. You will need to add secondary sources, (news coverage) before that tag can be removed. For your edification in future articles you may create, the reason you were being declined (if you re-read the decline notice), is not because the subject wasn't notable, but instead because the provided sources didn't prove that notability. Make sure this is done in the future. You're going to see me make some edits coming up. I would recommend not editing it until its on mainspace and you get a notice saying that the article has been reviewed on your talk page. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:11, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Sulfurboy, thank you very much, sincerely, for your help and patience, I will look for that (or those) secondary sources in order to improve the quality of the article along with more info and an image, again thanks. Paiskurt (talk) 21:27, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

regarding review

Hi. Thank you for reviewing my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ine_Back_Iversen I'm sorry it could not be approved and i am trying to correct it, but i am having trouble finding the area of the article that is problematic. Ive connected to the wiki help chat to have other editors look at it and they couldn't see see the mistake wither so i would love to connect with you and see what i can do to get it approved.

Terminalbud (talk) 19:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Terminalbud, The reason is clearly outlined in the decline message. Inline citations are required of all claims made in a biography of a living person. Sulfurboy (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

Hello, Sulfurboy

Thank you for creating Bad Cop/Bad Cop.

User:Sulfurboy, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

You're good to go now. Feel free to edit the page as you wish. I'll keep it on my watchlist, but ping me if anyone gives you trouble about notability concerns.

To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Sulfurboy}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ .

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Sulfurboy (talk) 21:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

No undisclosed payments

I am not being paid in any form. GriffinTGA (talk) 21:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 22:01:54, 4 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito

• Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Masha's Tales (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:01, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Please I Need of help The adminitrators Of Wikpedia no accept The Page Draft:Masha's Tales I want This In wikipedia Like a Articule again And The Page Will changed the Name For Draft Help Me SAFESUBST

I Need of help

I Need help because Of Draft:Masha's Tales I Want my article Back Please. Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito 22:04, 4 March 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ednei Campos De Jesus De Brito (talk • contribs)

Rejection of Draft: Allegheny International Services

Thank you for reviewing my article submission draft Allegheny International Services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Allegheny_International_Services. You had declined the article, citing lack of notable sources and insufficient coverage. I spent a lot of time yesterday correcting those issues and even found a noteworthy reference (Forbes Magazine) that I had missed before. I revised and resubmitted, but my second submission was rejected and called "essentially an advertisement." I hadn't noticed my non-neutral sounding language in my draft before, but upon review, I corrected those items. How can I get my article reconsiderd? I've spent a lot of time and I think it does meet the criteria now. I would really appreciate any advice. Thank you. Tina Rosco (talk) 22:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)Tina Rosco

Tina RoscoThe article has been rejected which means the submission will not be considered any further. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I hope you like cats.

Tina Rosco (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Declined Draft: Anomalie

Hello. You recently declined my draft submission for the artist 'Anomalie' and I am wondering exactly what you feel needs to be done for this draft to be accepted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Anomalie&action=submit

The previous editor to deny the draft commented saying I had not indicated which musical notability criteria was satisfied. I asked editors on live chat how exactly to fix this and their response was that they actually thought my references (especially Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303 Magazine) were viable in satisfying the first criterion for musical notability. They further suggested I reach out to the editor find out what they want, which I did. The editor responded that if other editors thought the criterion was satisfied that I should indicate so in an afc comment, which I also did (perhaps I failed to do so in a standard, expected way?).

We now come to the point where you have denied my resubmission with the afc comment indicating the satisfaction of musical notability; and so I ask you, what is it about the draft that you felt warranted a denial? What must I do at this juncture to get the draft approved?

Thank you for any clarity you can provide.

Afunk45 (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Afunk45, responded on draft page Sulfurboy (talk) 00:05, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for responding. I would like to discuss your statements on Voir, The Jerusalem Post, and 303. "Voir" is a very reputable cultural magazine in Quebec, "The Jerusalem Post" is a large newspaper in Israel, and "303" is a large print magazine circulated through Denver, Colorado. I have also had editors on IRC analyze my sources and tell me that they deem them viable. Does the reputability of each of these sources really not convince you of their viability? Thank you for understanding that I want to fully understand - as I have received mixed messages about my sources. I implore you to please re-consider them as they truly are reputable. Also, I believe I made necessary edits to sound more neutral, per your request - thank you for pointing this out to me as well.Afunk45 (talk) 02:10, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Afunk45, You're completely missing the point here. First 303 is distributed by a media marketing company, it isn't reliable as we cannot determine what articles were and were not paid for. And I never disputed that JP and Voir are reliable sources, the issue is the articles are primary as they are interviews. Sulfurboy (talk) 03:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Krishi Sanskriti page

Thank you. I tried to edit the page and add sources. Because I'm a Wikipedia novice, I find the editing somewhat difficult. In any case, if this does not fit the Wikipedia requirements, so be it. The sole reason, I did it was to let scholars and students know about yet another predatory conference and publishers. Best wishes Gek23 aka Gregory Kersten — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gek23 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Gek23 (talk) 17:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC) Talk Krishi Sanskriti > Sulfurboy (talk) 03:12, 5 March 2020 (UTC) wrote: "Wikipedia is not a place to push your agenda against something." I'm sorry Sulfurboy. It seems that you read my explanation, which also had nothing to do with my agenda not the page. I'm not pushing anything but telling about yet another scam. The purpose was to give potential readers useful (I think) information. No need to reply, Sulfurboy, as I will not continue this exercise. Best wishes, Gek23

Request on 01:20:33, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Drkab

• Drkab (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Taylor Bailey (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Drkab (talk) 01:20, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sulferboy,

First of all thanks for your quick response to editing the article I have been working on, Taylor Bailey and for letting me know why it was rejected - - basically because he was not a notable sports figure. After reviewing the criteria, I think that he now qualifies since he has started and played in a professional game. Wikipedia has a page for the National Independent Soccer Association, which is recognized as a professional soccer league.

Below are references for the NISA page and some sources that verify Taylor Bailey's play in the game between the Oakland Roots and Chattanooga FC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Independent_Soccer_Association The National Independent Soccer Association (NISA) is a professional men's soccer league in the United States. The league is in the third tier of American soccer and began play in 2019.

Verification of Taylor Bailey starting/playing for the Oakland Roots.

https://blog.sfgate.com/soccer/2020/02/29/late-strike-earns-oakland-roots-point-in-season-opener/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqe-YUh2EW4&t=50s

https://wdef.com/2020/02/29/cfc-draws-oakland-first-pro-match/

Does this meet the criteria?

Thanks for your help and patience. As you can probably tell, this is my first time writing/editing a page for Wikipedia.

Any additional comments would be welcomed.

Unfortunately no, a list of leagues that are considered fully professional under WP:NFOOTY standard can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues. If you disagree with this, you can propose a change to their policy. Until then, that's what I have to follow. Sulfurboy (talk) 01:55, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches

Lead questions

Hi,

I would like an opinion on the "lead". Should I try and pull in material from the transcluding page Yoshinobu Launch Complex to construct the lead for List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches?

Or compose a new lead?

Also, I want to figure out the function of the <noinclude>[[topic]]</noinclude><includeonly>topic</includeonly> that my model page used.

Perhaps it prevents recursive inclusion in the server's page composition?

Any pointers on this magic?

My path to the "List" new page

I recently created List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches as a transcluded page to improve a page Yoshinobu Launch Complex which itself was tagged with {{Update|date=January 2010}} 10 years ago, in January 2010.

I got into tranclusion with List of judges of the Supreme Court of Norfolk Island and a User request (a court clerk's request) to update information in Supreme_Court_of_Norfolk_Island#Judges (which turned out to be a transcluded page). This page's lead uses a bit of wiki magic at the top:

<!-- This article is transcluded in the main article Supreme Court of Norfolk Island. Changes made here will appear in that article. The almost almost duplication of the main article name to ensure the wikilink appears in this list and not in the main article --> The Judges of the <noinclude>[[Supreme Court of Norfolk Island]]</noinclude><includeonly>Supreme Court of Norfolk Island</includeonly> are generally appointed from among Justices of the [[Federal Court of Australia|Federal Court]] who may sit on the Australian mainland or they may convene the court on Norfolk Island depending on the type of matter they may be dealing with.

I've been using this as a, hopefully, good model.

Additional citations for verification

As a new page, List of Yoshinobu Launch Complex launches has nowhere near the cites of a page like List of Satish Dhawan Space Centre launches. It does, though, have a good source for all the launches listed as

"JAXA | Launch Records". JAXA | Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency. Retrieved 2020-02-24.

. This is a Wikipedia:SECONDARY source right? Also per WP:V,

To be sure, there are many websites in which you can have confidence: mainstream newspapers, refereed electronic journals, and university, library, and government collections of data.

.

Does that mean the JAXA source meets criteria for verifiability as a secondary source for the contents of the table?

Each of the launches has further JAXA information linked from there. For the future filling out of citations, most launches have, and will have, English news articles about the mission(s). At this point, the source web page combines launches from multiple facilities including the ESA/CNES Guiana Space Centre.

So what kind of sources of additional citations would be best?

Thanks for your time and help!

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Lent, If you're relying on one source for all the launches, I would just put something at the top like "this list is sourced from x". As for the lead, it doesn't matter where you get it from as long as it's not a copyright violation (so other parts of wikipedia is fine), I'm just more concerned with their being a lead than anything else. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:07, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Your opinion on proposed tables on stable sorting

Hi,

As you have a history of constructive comments like, User_talk:Sulfurboy/Archive/2013/October#Unique_Flavor, I was wondering if would look at this proposed example of tables I've put together. The Talk:Sorting_algorithm#Static_Stable_sorting_tables_with_dividers table as a sample in part of Talk:Sorting_algorithm#How_is_this_stable_sort_example? for eventual inclusion the topic stable sorting.

While I really wanted an interactive example, as I put together over at User:Lent/sandbox#Table, but column sorting doesn't work from almost all mobile browsers. Sadly, further sorting on a secondary column by Shift-Clicking or Shift-Enter requires a either a physical keyboard or a workaround with a virtual keyboard.

Until recently, I had no clue that Shift-Clicking (or Shift-Enter) further sorts an already sorted Wikipedia table.

Were you aware of this magic Shift-Click action?

--Lent (talk) 08:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Lent, I wasn't aware of it, although the edits I do in Wikipedia outside of automated processes is pretty limited and with that being said, I'm probably not the best source to give input on a proposed table format.Sulfurboy (talk) 14:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

OK. Thanks! --Lent (talk) 02:00, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 16:01:18, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Dotanmeirov

• Dotanmeirov (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Middiamonds (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, I am really trying to figure out how to properly do this. I have made most of the revisions asked for. If you can give me even one small example, I will make sure to fix the whole. I can also see how in the beginning it was totally advertisement looking. I removed everything and only kept the dry facts about the company. I followed the instructions on the wiki pages. Just give me a little insite and I will do my best to make it right. I thank you again, D

Dotanmeirov (talk) 16:01, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Dotanmeirov, Sorry, but I don't have any interest in helping paid editors and/or a business promoting itself. Sulfurboy (talk) 18:43, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Asking for clarification on rejected article

Hey, thanks for the feedback on this page for Barry's. Can you please give me some specific detail on how or where it reads like an ad? I'm happy to adjust where necessary, but I thought I wrote this in a pretty neutral, objective tone, and I cited a ton of reputable sources. Thanks for your help!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Barry%27s_Bootcamp — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djb2183 (talk • contribs) 17:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Request on 23:41:54, 5 March 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by VladNDB

• VladNDB (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Peter McIan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. I am having trouble getting the Wikipedia page for Peter McIan accepted. McIan produced two of the most popular albums of the 80's (Men at Work's 'Business as Usual' and 'Cargo'), as well as a number of important Australian bands (listed in the page), and has been credited in multiple major periodicals (Billboard and Rolling Stone) for helping to shape the Australian sound. There are 36 references to McIan on Wikipedia, so I am unclear why a page addressing the person cited on other pages (often at length) is not relevant. I'd appreciate any help here! Thanks!

VladNDB (talk) 23:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Great Fan

Hello @Sulfurboy thank you for making Wikipedia a better place on internet am great fan hopefully one day to become like you always active 👍 Sevenmw265 (talk) 02:35, 6 March 2020 (UTC)