Talk:Buttocks

"White men and a black man!"

The lurid stripper photo whose caption goes out of its way to name the races of the Chippendales pictured? It seems really inappropriate for Wikipedia, more like something from a joke or a porn site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.164.210 (talk) 09:37, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Please elaborate on your reasoning for the implied request. Your reasoning seems arbitrary. I agree that the caption, by mentioning racial information, is unnecessary, but I don't believe the image, as a whole, should be removed. Whatshouldichoose (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Slang

I’d say “bum” belongs in the polite section, not the vulgar one. Mazz0 (talk) 18:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

If butt is to be included as an alternative name, then bum should be too. For me, and other people speaking European/Commonwealth English, butt is the end of a cigarette (well, ok, or fag end I suppose). I don't mind removing the slang, but if the US term is there, the European/Commonwealth one should be too. - Francis Tyers · 10:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I think it is better that no slang terms are included. This is an encyclopaedia after all. - Francis Tyers · 10:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Arse is the original Anglo-Saxon word. Ass is an Americanisation, possibly because its ambiguity (ass, the animal) conveys a slightly more polite / less embarrassing impression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.143.50 (talk) 07:29, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2016

The caption "Two white men and a black man," and the accompanying stripper photo, should be deleted. It is inappropriately lurid for a Wikipedia page, and the racial references push it way over the line. 95.151.164.210 (talk) 09:35, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Agreed.  Done Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Now reverted, unfortunately, by OnBeyondZebrax. At the very least, it should have a more explanatory caption (of the fact that it shows a stage show) - not an unencyclopedic and borderline racist one that has zero educational value. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I see no motive as to why one would deem this "racist". Need I evoke the definition by the English Oxford Dictionary? (Showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another) Whatshouldichoose (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I proposed the picture of the black man so that this articles' images would comply with MOS:IMAGES, which states that articles on a general topic should depict a range of races and genders. Until the picture in question was added, there were no images of Black individuals. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 23:23, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2017

The words female and male (used under the pictures) are adjectives, not nouns. This should say a female (or male) buttock or the noun woman (and man) should be used. Heggink (talk) 11:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

 Not done - see wikt:female#Noun. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

lists in the "society and culture" section

The overall section on society and culture is too long relative to the overall article. Compare with the article on heart, a part of the body that obviously also has substantial cultural significance, but where this section is in more reasonable proportion to the overall article. The section suffers in particular from the various bullet-point lists which it contains (namely: synonyms, related terms, and in popular culture), which by their nature tend to become dumping-grounds for every conceivable example, many of which are unsourced. The list of synonyms is the most egregious of these. I do not think that it serves any useful purpose in terms of understanding the cultural significance of the buttocks to list every conceivable synonym in English. Wikipedia is not a thesaurus, and neither is this an article about the English language -- although a brief and appropriately written section on "linguistic aspects" including a modest selection of examples inline in the text would be reasonable. Regarding the list of related terms, a few of these could no doubt also be folded into a section on linguistic aspects by way of examples of words derived from the Greek root pyg-, but really most of the terms should either be incorporated into the text of the section relevant to their actual meaning (depending whether they relate to medical or cultural aspects) or simply omitted. Again, simply presenting a list of words is not particularly helpful. Regarding the "in popular culture" list, well, the same thing really: two or three well-written paragraphs with selected examples, and lose the rest. The problem of course is that it is much harder to do this well than it is to just expand lists of examples, and I am not offering. But what I would say is that anyone wanting to improve the article by replacing lists with well-written prose should be bold about doing so, and not be worried about discarding some existing content in the process. Thanks, --Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 10:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I agree that converting the lists to prose would be a good step. Lists make it so easy to add a new bullet for a new slang term you heard on the bus last night...too easy. When text is in prose, it requires editors to find a logical place to insert their text. Which is harder than just creating a new bullet.OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 23:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

"The buttocks allow primates to sit upright without needing to rest their weight on their feet as four-legged animals do."

Kelly Starrett would argue that our bottoms are not intended to be load-bearing surfaces at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfhoundjesse (talk • contribs) 16:42, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Pratfall

Is pratfall a notable subject? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:46, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

I think so. Emotioness Expression (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Non-primates

As I was writing the short description, I noticed that the lead says "primates (including humans), and many other bipeds or quadrupeds", but the anatomy section only talks about primates. What other creatures besides primates have buttocks? Daask (talk) 14:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Capitalisation in hatnote

Why is "Buttocks" capitalised in the hatnote reading "For the biological description of Buttocks, see hip."? It seems illogical as "buttocks" is not a specific name or title of anything; I propose that we change it to lowercase. Geolodus (talk) 13:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Kim Kardashian?

Can someone remove this irrelevant nonsense? I was actually curious about the sociocultural perceptions of this body part throughout various times and places, but this single instance from the US in the 2010s felt very much non-apropos and almost calculating in its cynical appropriation of space in an article that's otherwise about a universal human feature, possibly for this individual's personal gain. --84.213.45.97 (talk) 18:15, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

I agree and I have removed it. -- Alarics (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Lead edits

I have edited the Lead; scrutiny is invited. If you disagree please revert one edit at a time with an explanation. Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 02:06, 10 April 2020 (UTC)