Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krupesh Thacker

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:07, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Krupesh Thacker

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The article is a refbomb of press releases and articles which do even mention the person, has otherwise no independent coverage; might be WP:COI editing. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 00:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 00:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 00:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The creator of this article is also the creator of the equally faulty Krup Music, for which Mr. Thacker is the CEO. Both are attempted promotions. This article on the man desperately tries to ref-bomb its way toward notability, but almost all the sources are reprints of his own press releases, listings of songs/films in which he was tangentially involved, and brief reports of events in which he was only listed as being present (if that much). He has managed to get himself into all the usual social media and streaming sites, but Wikipedia has tougher notability requirements. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 02:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete under G11 as unambiguous promotion. The same user created this, created Krup Music as well as doomsdayer520 pointed out. 100% of their 57 total edits in this space relate to the name Krupesh Thacker. Their new page creations look pretty tricked-out for a new user, huh. Over on the Commons the same user has 8 edits total, all the images sourced from Krupesh Thacker or Krup Music, which the user seems to license on his behalf. This doesn't seem like an innocent mistake (smile), it seems like promotion. --Lockley (talk) 07:37, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, I am the creator of the page. 1st of all thanks to the senior editors for the inputs on my work. I am not related to the person, however I am fan of this artist and the movies his record label company has done. So I decided to make page related to him and his company. Based on my research on policy guidelines, I believe that my article should get a chance to stay on Wikipedia and this profile deserves a chance for improvement by experienced editors. Here are my points based on WP:COMPOSER#1 and WP:MUSIC#10. He has credit for writing lyrics for film Family Circus (2018 film)[1] performed by notable artist Shaan. He is a lyricist as well as co-music director for film Commitment (2017 film)[2]. His song from film Gujarati Wedding In Goa is published by the record label he is not related with.[3] He has verified artist profiles Gaana [4], JioSaavn [5] YouTube [6] as well as Spotify [7]. His songs are also part of the compilation albums along with other notable artists.[8]. On checking more policies I found that his profile meets WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE(#3) too. I am very new to Wikipedia and based on feedback issue stated here, I edited the article and removed the refbomb of press release kind of article and event articles from regional language that mentioned his name. I also removed the details that looks like promotional. I will do same for my another article about his company Krup Music to make it justifiable with the Wikipedia standards. However me creating two pages connected to same person doesn't take away his credits and work as an artist. Kind request to all to verify his credits. If still my work is found to violate the guidelines, I would appreciate the best resolution by seniors. MovieLoverFan (talk) 15:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the fair and dignified response. I will assume good faith and retract any accusations about Mr. Thacker trying to promote himself. Unfortunately, even though the musician has valid appearances on compilation albums and the like, all he has is basic credits for being present. Self-created or paid promotional announcements and videos are also insufficient. See Wikipedia's rule on significant and reliable coverage. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I really appreciate your understanding and guidance. Well he is not just in compilation albums. There are three movies each has one song lyrics by him. I gave reference link to all the movies. I also on my research found that his songs are in top charts and added links to those in notes section of main article. I found a IMDB link to a movie where he is mentioned as a producer.[1]. Is this enough reference to add his credit as a movie producer? There is one strong reference article on his journey and life by a ABP news paper. The article is not visible on the news portal however I could retrieve the article from Dailyhunt. I tried to add the link but somehow Dailyhunt link is not accepted. Any help will be appreciated. I also removed many news articles where he is mentioned for his social work activities. I am not sure if it will make sense to his profile as an artist or not. Kindly guide. I can add a section about his social work with appropriate link. You can check those in the 1st version of the page. I am very confused and reading all the policies to get my work as a editor welcomed by the community. Thanks again for the help. MovieLoverFan (talk) 19:54, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The article creator has specified they have no WP:COI, but even after assuming that in good faith, the article is mostly promotional and not enough reliable sources to pass WP:GNG or WP:NMUSIC. While I appreciate the creator justifying his stance, their vote shouldn't be a part of it, only comments. Coderzombie (talk) 11:19, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article creators are free to vote at AFD but their arguments are often given less weight by the closer of the discussion, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 00:07, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. Well I didn't know that I can't vote here. Is it so? Also I was planning to create more articles of music artists based on the policy mentioned. This artist fits WP:COMPOSER#1 and WP:NMUSIC#10 as he is the lyricist of 3 songs from 3 movies where notable singers have sung his songs. The movie songs were also on top charts by reputed newspaper based on public poll as well as on JioSaavn and Gaana (largest music streaming services of India). Kindly help with the editing further if you see any promotional word. So I can save my article and establish myself on Wikipedia. Thanks again.MovieLoverFan (talk) 13:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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