Talk:15 October 2011 global protests

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Recentism

Is this even legit? It's talking about it as though it's already happened, but the 15th is today...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.90.153 (talk • contribs) 2011-10-15T11:17:53‎

While recentism is a justifiable concern, this article is already well cited and acts as a summary for sections of the Occupy Wall Street article that would otherwise grow too large if left alone. While we might normally wait to see if this event requires its own article, the scope of what is happening gives us good indication to assume this will be an influential turning point in the Occupy protests in the coming days. Especially given the riot sparked in Rome. That should feed the media news machine for a few days, while the fallout could go on for weeks. --Cast (talk) 21:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of protests wordwide

We should list those cities organizing protests on 15 October 2011. Most are listed at List of "Occupy" protest locations. Pristino (talk) 22:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article should be deleted

Most if not all the info in this article is already covered in other articles and the protests were already spreading worldwide from the Occupy movement in NYC before October 15th. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the discussion here:

Talk:"Occupy" protests#Big confusion on what's going on --Timeshifter (talk) 13:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Timeshifter - I note your comment, but I believe that the 15 October 2011 global protests article should be merged into the "Occupy" protests article. The content of the 15 October 2011 global protests article relates almost entirely to the "Occupy" protests article. Today is 16 October and there is very little content about protests that occurred on one specific date. (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=15_October_2011_global_protests&oldid=455801028). The date has little significance other than being the start of global protests, which are covered in the "Occupy" protests article. Gfcvoice (talk) 13:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at the talk link I left in my previous comment has been covering this issue in much more detail. See the talk sections before and after too. I suggest continuing there since that is where you want to merge this article into. --Timeshifter (talk) 13:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you (and editor Pencil) for your comments. I now have a better understanding of the Spanish background to the global protests. I agree that this discussion should continue on the talk page of the Occupy protests page. Gfcvoice (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - I would suggest that we should have at least 4 overarching articles.

1) October 15 that explains the separate organizing of the October 15 global protests
2) Occupy, that explains the separate organizing of the Wall Street Occupy protests
3) The Spanish Revolution which explains the separate organizing of those protests

there are also other global and regional protests that have there own pages, including October2011

4) A unified article that explains how all the protest have merged and call it "Global Protests 2011"

Xacobi (talk) 18:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is this: 2011 Spanish protests. As to Global Revolution there is no notable organization with that name or focus. There are a bunch of very loosely organized groups that come together in different groupings from time to time. --Timeshifter (talk) 22:09, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are definitely right about that. Global Revolution is not the correct term. It turns out there is support to call the page "Global Protests 2011" which covers all the different aspects. Xacobi (talk) 03:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Title refers to 15 October specifically, but article says "ongoing"

The title of this article is 15 October 2011 global protests. However the article had several references to the protests as being "ongoing". Either the article title needs to be changed to remove the specific date (15 October 2011) from the title, or otherwise the word "ongoing" needs to be removed from the article. I made the bold decision to remove "ongoing" from the article. Gfcvoice (talk) 15:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I would agree that this article should only be about the October 15 protests and there there should be a merged article that explains the ongoing global protests as I explain above. Xacobi (talk) 18:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Best, merge this into the occupy protests article. See Talk:"Occupy"_protests#Merge_with_15_October_2011_global_protests_article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 20:39, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. After all, we still spoke about the 15M movement well after 15 May, and these protests are already referred to as the 15O movement. "15O protests" is inelegant as the title of an encyclopedia, yet the date 15 October is important in the title because it is when the protests started. Hypernovic (talk) 08:03, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Main Portal Page

It's been suggested this article is added to "In the News" in the main portal page, but the administrators think the article is still too thin. Please contribute additional information to the article if you can. Are there any other sections we could add, such as arrests, reactions, etc? Hypernovic (talk) 08:01, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]