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How much they eat

It says: "Insectivorous bats may eat over 120 percent of their body weight, while frugivorous bats may eat over twice their weight.".

It stands to reason that a bat must have eaten at least 100% of its body-weight over the course of its lifetime. But this statistic is meaningless without saying what the timescale is. I presume it's per day, but I don't have access to the cited source.

Can someone with access to the source fix it?

MrDemeanour (talk) 14:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "Most of the oldest known bat fossils were already very similar to modern microbats, such as Archaeopteropus (32 million years ago)." to "Most of the oldest known bat fossils were already very similar to modern microbats, such as Archaeopteropus (32 million years ago). The oldest known bat fossil is the Icaronycteris gunnelli (52 million years ago). The two sets of fossils were discovered in Wyoming." AAAAAA14 (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Actualcpscm (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

done Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Potentially incorrect citation about heterothermy.

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The Thermoregulation subheading specifically cites Nowack, J.; Stawski, C.; Geiser, F. (2017) [1] in the first sentence as the source for information about the differential nature of heterothermy between bats. Whilst this citation is useful in the general context it doesn't specifically address this question at all, instead focusing on broadening our concept of the reasons for torpor instead!

A more appropriate source would instead be Stawski, Willis, & Geiser, 2014 [2] which has a table (Table 1) that summarises thermal physiology of bats by family. Skeletorfw (talk) 11:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done; added the source you suggested. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:52, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disease transmission to humans.

I am not sure how to add this to the article, but nearly all disease transmission from bats to humans is to dumbarses and sadists:

Some dumbarses see sick bats on the ground pick them up and get bitten.

Sadists harassing and killing bats get bitten and catch diseases.

Bats rarely transmit diseases to humans when the humans leave them alone.

Basically, if you leave the bats alone, the bats will leave you alone, but if you mess with the bats, the bats will fuck you up.

Because they eaten parasitic insects, bats reduce transmission of insect-vector disease.

Because the world is complicated, exceptions to everything exist. The exceptions are the vampire bats which do not leave people alone and carry diseases.

All things considered, if you live in a location without vampire bats and leave them alone, because they eat parasitic insects, they will reduce disease-transmission, but, if you mess with them, they will fuck you up.