Talk:Danelaw

Norse history and culture Start‑class High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Norse history and culture, a WikiProject related to all activities of the North Germanic peoples, both in Scandinavia and abroad, prior to the formation of the Kalmar Union in 1397. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Norse history and cultureWikipedia:WikiProject Norse history and cultureTemplate:WikiProject Norse history and cultureNorse history and culture articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Denmark Start‑class

	Denmark portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Denmark, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Denmark on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DenmarkWikipedia:WikiProject DenmarkTemplate:WikiProject DenmarkDenmark articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Middle Ages Start‑class High‑importance

	Middle Ages portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Middle Ages, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Middle Ages on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Middle AgesWikipedia:WikiProject Middle AgesTemplate:WikiProject Middle AgesMiddle Ages articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

England Unassessed

	England portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnglandWikipedia:WikiProject EnglandTemplate:WikiProject EnglandEngland-related articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Merger with History of the Danelaw

Things will depend on how much of the current History of the Danelaw article we want to keep, and how much it will grow. There is some overlap which will reduce the length of a merged article, but I'm coming round to the opinion that a merger will unbalance this article. I'll give it maybe a week before removing the proposal for a merger; in which case the History of the Danelaw section of this article should be a general one with the History of the Danelaw article being more specific.Koonan the almost civilised 01:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I encourage blending the "History of the Danelaw" article into the main "Danelaw" article. I'm of the humble opinion that the content is not broad enough (at the time of writing) to warrant multiple seperate articles. However, I do agree with your concerns regarding a potential unbalance - perhaps the merger could create a new 'Timeline of the Danelaw' subsection in the main article?

Ghost 9 06:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I concurr with the sentiment of Ghost 9... It is obviously not worth two separatte articles on the Danelaw, especially as the history of the things in Wikipedia is so integral, it is mostly what encyclodeias are about, neigh, life itself. History on the subjects should precede any other considerations, if any at all.

The problem here seems to be that the article Hitory of the Danelaw contains the timeline, which is difficult to fit in the Danlaw article. It is something which may require an entire set of timelines to be made, on the whole scope of nationally identifiable regions, from their origins to their eventual disintegration, or integrations... Maybe a start on this venture could be made with the different Viking lands throughout the British Isles, and the end of each could be shown with the integration of them into their cultural neighbours, or their disintegrations, as in the joint kingship of York-Dublin, while the cultural neighbours also could be treated in similar ways. Ultimately, a series of Wikitables could be begun to accomodate the chronologies of history.

It is a project and a half, if anyone wishes to begin it. I am willing to participate, although I am not an administrator. It has actually been a dream of mine to see the production of a map which shows a chronology of each territory in time, as well as space, and the attatchment of historical analysis to this, as with people's relationships and the reason in their lives. Wikipedia history could itself be a singular project which revolves around this concept. Anyone got any ideas as to the possibilities of it? Think its a good idea?

WikieWikieWikie 19:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just out of curiosity - how big was Slavic influence in Danelaw? I keep reading here nad there that Danes used extensively Slavic mercenaries and settlers, but can't traceany definite source confirming it.. Szopen 09:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:14, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New map available

An outline of Danelaw England: the area of the Danelaw is coloured blue

The map image presently used in this article for the Danelaw in England is from a bit of a sloppy scan, and is fairly low resolution. I've just uploaded this image: it's a scan of a slightly older map, but it's pinpointed at the same date (878 AD), it gives essentially the same boundaries (but not quite), it's much more detailed, and it offers a much higher resolution. You might want to use it instead of the existing image. Nortonius (talk) 09:54, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Anglo-Norse England vs. Category:Anglo-Saxon England

Category:Anglo-Norse England is itself a category within Category:Anglo-Saxon England. — Robert Greer (talk) 02:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slavs settling the Danelaw

This piece contains the following statement: "Polabian Slavs (Wends) settled in parts of England, apparently as Danish allies.[8]" The footnote is not an academic nor scholarly source, but apparently a blog. To make such an assertion, this statement needs to be backed up by a scholarly source. MarmadukePercy (talk) 12:33, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have replaced the citation with a citationneeded tag. If noone can find a reliable source for this I propose that the statement is deleted. --Saddhiyama (talk) 16:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Danish self-rule"

"The treaty outlined the boundaries of the Danelaw and allowed for Danish self-rule in the region."

What does this mean, exactly? Was the Danelaw a separate state in the midst of England, run by the Danish settlers? Or was it a part of the Kingdom of Denmark? I realize that "Denmark" was probably a pretty loosely organized polity at the time, but I am wondering if the Danelaw was even notionally a part of it, or if this was just a new state for the invading Danes. --Jfruh (talk) 23:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Denmark's ties to the Danelaw could be compared, without controversy, to England's relationship to Normandy in France. 70.171.236.188 (talk) 03:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Off the rails

This piece on the Danelaw now contains assertions about Oliver Cromwell and the Puritans? And lots of other unrelated nonsense as well. This entry has gone off the rails, and needs serious editing to bring it back in line to what the Danelaw was all about. I'll try to get to it, but hopefully an editor who monitors this entry regularly might beat me to it. MarmadukePercy (talk) 03:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So you believe that when foreign cliques of dictators overthrow the people, that they forever erase the landscape of the said people, that they disappear? Since the article already mentioned the existence of legal recognition in paper for quite some time after the Conquest, would you whine and cry so bitterly that there exists a context by which to discuss the Danelaw's new establishment of barons in this time period? At which time is the drop off, that the Danelaw exists no more and the people vanish from history? Would you tell the West Countrymen that they are not Anglo-Saxons or at least West Saxons? You would be put in the stocks in Oliver Cromwell's time. Be reasonable. Your editing "contributions" consist chiefly of altering other people's edits, rather than providing any substantial reservoir of information for the benefit of Wikipedia. On what high ground do you attack my significant efforts to bring this article's nature in the real world to life? 70.171.236.188 (talk) 03:56, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted your edits because they're POV, poorly sourced and not in the interests of an encyclopedia. Moreover, you ought to be careful before accusing other editors of making no contributions. MarmadukePercy (talk) 04:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You have yet to address the details of true and false. You have only mocked and vilified my humble work, rather than explain why this or that is wrong in your eyes and as such, you continue to destroy the integrity of this article with blind revert warring. 70.171.236.188 (talk) 04:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you recuse yourself from such high-handedness, I will most certainly work through the specific points of this article with you and anybody interested in this topic. That's not too much to ask in the cause of reason. 70.171.236.188 (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]