Talk:David Rosenhan

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I was looking him up to check what university he worked at, and it seems that someone has edited the page to the effect that he died yesterday. I did a news search and cannot find ANY source other than Wikipedia that he has died. Vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.81.99.28 (talk) 04:15, 8 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a source. --Racklever (talk) 09:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Illness?

Reading Lauren Slater's book, she mentions him having a disease without a diagnosis

7 years later, did anyone figure out what it was? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.169.0.7 (talk) 06:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy

No time to write this morning, but there is evidence that the patients never existed: Influential Stanford study of psychiatric hospitals may have been fabricated & Susannah Cahalan "The Great Pretender: The Undercover Mission That Changed Our Understanding of Madness". --WiseWoman (talk) 07:09, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cahalan successfully tracked down two of the pseudopatients who were graduate students, "Bill Dixon" (the pseudonym actually used was "Bill Dickson") who was graduate student Wilburn "Bill" Crockett Underwood, and the ninth pseudopatient who was removed from the study, Harry Lando (pseudonym "Walter Abrams" in Rosenhan's notes), another graduate student, who wrote up his own account of his experience in a published paper: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1976-21263-001 Rosenhan was a third (though he sometimes told people that his account wasn't part of the study but was an earlier training exercise, which is untrue, as the published study includes quotations (some accurate) from his medical record and matches his notes of his experience).

Cahalan also, contrary to what is stated in the current version of this article, demonstrated that Rosenhan was dishonest in at least the following ways: (1) An earlier draft of the paper which supposedly included a ninth pseudopatient (Lando) had exactly the same data as the published paper without the ninth pseudopatient (i.e., the averages unaccountably do not change); (2) one pseudopatient, Bill Underwood, says he didn't collect the quantitative data that Rosenhan reported in his study; (3) Rosenhan fabricated quotations from his medical record (which she verified from his paper and book draft, as well as the medical record); (4) Rosenhan falsely claimed that he wore a wig when he was admitted as a pseudopatient, while a photograph at his admission shows he was bald and not wearing a wig; (5) although Lando was allegedly removed from the study, the published study includes statements from Rosenhan's notes about "Walter Abrams" -- i.e., some of his qualitative data was still included. The quote that Cahalan cannot be certain that Rosenhan "cheated," as presented in the current article, "suggesting that her work is highly speculative", doesn't account for the definitive evidence of deception that Cahalan uncovered (and seems not to have been written by someone who actually read her book, but only read and misinterpreted comments from a review of her book). Lippard (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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