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Unobjective and tendentious edits

The issue of feylis etymological ethnical identity is unresolved. Iranian wiki members such as "علی ساکی لرستانی" have engaged in full scale editing and publishing obviously tendentious sources on this article. If the origin of feylis is contested, it is unreasonable to edit entire articles and break wikipedias objectivity standards to suit your own POV. Here by any edits to this article that do not follow wikipedias directives, without the consent of the consensus on the talk page of this article, is subject removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.150.236.238 (talk) 13:04, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Throughout the years, I have added a lot of information to the "Feyli-page", I am a Feyli myself, I just want to mention that Feylis are Kurds, and it is insane how one person has edited the word "Kurds" to "Lurs" on the entire page, even in the part where I cited a renowned scholar "Joost Hiltermann". That person also edited the URL of the source The Guardian from "Kurds" to "Lurs", and now that link doesn't work. This is nothing but vandalism and should be fixed, I hope an experienced user will restore the page. Thanks. Avicenna1985 (talk) 18:03, 19 December 2013 (UTC) __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I removed all fallacious references to lurs.[reply]

5.150.236.238 (talk) 18:00, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I remember reading the Faylis were Lors and not Kurds, as the language they speak is Luri. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.193.124 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure this is correct. The article Luri language mentions that Luri is part of the Southwestern Iranian launguages group whereas the Kurdish language is part of the Northwestern Iranian launguages group See also. This indicates that the Luris live exclusively in Iran whereas I have heard of significant Fayli communities in Iraq.

This article doesn't mention the language of Fayli, and could very well be Luri. As stated earlier, I have come across source stating the Faylis are Lors who identify as Kurds in Iraq for lack of a closer ethnic group, unlike Iran. I remember reading the Faylis were Lori pilgrims to the Shia holy sites in Iraq and ended up settling in Iraq.

That doesn't make any sense since half of the Feylis live in Iran, and they also happen to identify themselves as Kurds. Their dialects are just like the dialects spoken by other Kurdish tribes in the area. There are even Kurdish tribes there who are also Shia and speak the exact same dialect but who do not consider themselves Feyli. Feyli Kurds are an heterogeneous group and there isn't really anything that differs them from other Kurds.

See the write up here [1] for more information. AndrewRT - Talk 20:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, Feyli kurd are kurds. I am an Feyli kurd, an beleive me, i know

As an Englishman I'm forced to rely on others to inform me! Ater some quick research on the internet I found this article [2] which says:

The Faili (Fayli or Pahli) Kurds are an integral part of the great Kurdish people and they speak the Kurdish language in the Laurie and Laki (dialect) accent

Of course that doesn't mean there weren't also some Lors who emigrated at the same time and ended up being lumped together with the Kurdish-speaking Faylis. AndrewRT - Talk 15:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Feylî

Feylî it´s a dialect of Laki language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.48.18.154 (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pehlí

The kurdish name is Pehlí (or Pahlí), Feylí (or Faylí) is the arabic form of the name. We have the same case when it comes to the persians, the original Pars and the arabized Fars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.211.101.220 (talk) 23:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feylis Are Kurds

Besides all ethnic facts that People of ME know it better than any one else, the Language of Feyli Kurds exactly is a sub-dialect of southern Kurdish. Also some Feyli Kurds speak Leki dialect too (around Ilam) as well as some speak Sorani. (78.38.22.96 (talk) 14:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)).[reply]

i am feyli too. and i speak sorani too. so i zhave to say we are kurds, like thze luri. i am luri kichzouk, little luri ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.189.100 (talk) 11:24, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Feylis are Lurs

We are not talkinmg about feylis who are bilingual in other languages as well. Feylis speak Luri. Their language is intelligible with Western dialects of Persian and Luri, much more than Laki. In all historical accounts they are mentioned as Lurs. I do not speak much of Kurdish but I speak Luri and the Feyli language was intelligible for me. It was also to a high extent intelligible for Tehrani Persian speakers --Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't mean anything. Feyli kurdish is also mutually intelligble with sorani. There is alot of cognates. Also feyli kurds are genetically closely related to Sorani Kurds and other southern kurds, than they are to persians. This is confirmed by autosmal wide genetic testing. 5.150.236.238 (talk) 13:51, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

http://kurdishdna.blogspot.se/2012/06/kurdish-autosomal-dna-based-on-dodecad.html