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Nationality

Could someone please change the flag at the top to Spain as it clearly notes that he was born in Madrid, Spain? Lee 15:50 16, October 2007 (UTC)

Whilst he was born in Spain, he is not Spanish, he is American. He was born to American parents, in Madrid, Spain, whilst his father was stationed there with the US Airforce. He was raised in the US and would be a US citizen. I sincerely doubt he would have any real affiliation with Spain. -- Misinformation (talk) 10:41, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

if he was born in Spain, that would make him an automatic citizen of Spain would it not?68.164.85.197 (talk) 02:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not if he was born to a family that was stationed over there in one of the branches of the American Military, and chances are he was probaly born in the hospital at the Base, and the Base is considered US Territory. Fisha695 (talk) 16:28, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jew

According to obsessedwithwrestling.com, Kane is jewish, I don't know if this is just bullshit. Here's the link though: http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/profiles/jewish.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.185.211.226 (talk) 22:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Obsessed with wrestling is a match guide, and just look at the horrible grammar they use, it makes me laugh. That site is not trusted, neither are spoiler sites like wrestlezone...--Lord Dagon (talk) 13:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC) Mabye CAW.ws could tell you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.214.9.139 (talk) 03:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

World Heavyweight Championship

Did Kane won the WHC?. See the 2004 section, i need a source. --KingOfDX (talk) 05:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, because when Paul London and Brian Kendrick won the World Tag Team Championship from Cade and Murdoch at the house show, JR and Lawler even talked about it during their match at Unforgiven.--Lord Dagon (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No source?, removed. --KingOfDX (talk) 06:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kane defeated Chris Benoit at a house show in 2004 to win the World Heavyweight Championship. Unlike Paul London & Brian Kendrick's title win, Kane's was disallowed because it was a World Championship. Since the title change was not allowed, the World Heavyweight Championship doesn't recognize Kane as a former champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomholdroyd (talkcontribs) 19:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Myspace?

at the bottom of the page it gives his myspace. however the list of WWE 'myspacers' (such as the one on Gregory Helms' page) doesnt include him on it. should it be deleted or not?Insanity x (talk) 18:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's just another poser profile, I've deleted the link.Misinformation (talk) 00:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Funeral Home

I may be mistaken, but I do believe it was actually The Undertaker that burned down the funeral home. Not Kane. I could be wrong though, but if I am, apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.32.98 (talk) 06:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yes ur right...i also heard that, Undertaker killed the parens of Kane....if u see the reviews of previous fights before wrestlemania underaker vs kane match, paul bearer said the same that taker killed the perants —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.240.234 (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maksed Kane vs. Unmasked Kane

Are they they same person? The masked Kane seemed Rreally muscular, especially his exposed arm when he wore the full body suit, and he also seemed muscilar in the abs, whereas the unmasked Kane seems larger, with a fatter abdomen and more a round arm, rather than built and muscular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.133.54.150 (talk) 02:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thats wat im saying some1 told me the real kane had a sucide pact with the orignal warrior --The real rj (talk) 19:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
i dont think so--99.147.224.224 (talk) 20:35, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
People can get out of shape you know. Who else would it be? Katie Vick? --Kaizer13 (talk) 22:34, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Festus is the guy who played the Imposter Kane 3pointswish (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think he asked about who played the Imposter Kane character once upon a time, I think he's asking if the early version of masked Kane (1997-2000-something) is the same as the current guy. Which is yes, only Mr. Jacobs seems a tad bit out-of-shape now as compared to then. And this discussion doesn't really belong here anywhere. --Kaizer13 (talk) 16:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that could be true. Just look at everyone from 10 years ago, Undertaker's lost 30 pounds, Kane's a lot more out of shape, Triple H got 30 more pounds of muscle, HBK's lost 10 pounds of muscle, everyone's different than back then. 3pointswish (talk) 20:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion does not make sense because almost every person has strayed off topic. That is all. Altenhofen (talk) 03:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WrestleMania XXIV Match Length

Kane's match only lasted 8 seconds not 9. This was reported on last night's ECW by none other than Kane himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.22.123.124 (talk) 21:08, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At 8 seconds, the length of the match sets the WrestleMania record. This should be noted, as it could be considered a career accomplishment. His "WrestleMania moment," if you will.--Obligatoryhandle (talk) 00:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. And to say That doesn't need to be noted here is silly. Just like a record set at the Super Bowl is noted on a football players page, this too should be noted. --Endless Dan 01:17, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know for a Fact, the un-masked Kane is not the real Kane, Kane owns a gym in my hometown of Sevierville, Tn, Family Fitness, I will not give out his full name, but his first name is Scott, he wore a mask for years because he did not like wrestling all that much, he kept it that way so he could be replaced when he wanted to quit. I see him time to time in my store purchasing fishing supplies, he still has long hair, and still is fit. So the un-masked Kane is a fake and it kinda urks me they put Scott's stats in there to reflect well for Jacob Glenn. Scott was a better Kane Hands down, Vince M. shouldn't be such a ball breaker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.241.127.162 (talk) 15:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It kinda urks me that people say things that aren't true, at least, give me some proof.--Lord Dagon (talk) 18:38, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. - I like how you used the name Scott (from Scott Hall, whom he played a fake for), so as to make us believe that, well, if we did to begin with. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lord Dagon (talkcontribs) 18:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
He played the fake Diesel. --Endless Dan 12:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About Glen Jacob's height

A few days ago when I visited the page on GLEN JACOB, I saw his original height was given that is 6'8" and also the original weight. But why it is has been removed now?

Ron Paul support

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN20ArEmRLs

In his own words. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BaRbArIaN69 (talkcontribs) 21:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You DO realize that YouTube violates Copywright laws, and that's why we don't use it, right?--Lord Dagon (talk) 13:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Source

Here's an article I stumbled upon that has some information on Kane. Maybe some of it would be useful for the article. Man or monster? Now that Kane has taken off his trademark mask, we probe behind the brute's facade—and the results aren't pretty - DrWarpMind (talk) 15:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ECW Champion

Kane winning the ECW Championship at WrestleMania XXIV was an amazing acomplishment. However I clearly remember Michael Cole saying "both Undertaker and Kane walked out of WrestleMania as a world champion." According to Pro Wrestling Illustrated the ECW Championship is not a recognized world championship. I think the only reason it isn't recognized as a world championship is because its prestige has dropped since coming out of retirement and the only reason I think its prestige has dropped is because there are no other championships on the ECW brand. Would anyone be able to find out if any other championships are joining the ECW brand soon? Also would you be able to find out the real reason why the ECW Championship isn't recognized as a world championship? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomholdroyd (talkcontribs) 19:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not that this kind of discussion is allowed on Wikipedia talk pages, I think it may be because WWE themselves consider the ECW Championship to be a mid-card title, like the Intercontinental and US titles. I've seen no official confirmations though. --Kaizer13 (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
back when RVD, Big Show, and Lashley were champions, it was treated as if it was on par with the WWE and WHC, although now it's been dropped to a midcard title —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdrouskirsh (talkcontribs) 23:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The ECW title is regarded as a world title by World Wrestling Entertainment, but PWI who "officially" declare whether a title or not is a world title hasn't reinstated world title status because it isn't defended abroad enough, its normally only contended in the USA. Bm2 (talk) 08:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name change

Glen Jacobs

Resolved

Who would support a move to Kane (wrestler)? King iMatthew 2008 10:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for the reasons listed above. He has had several well-known ring names, so keeping the article at Glen Jacobs makes sense. This is in keeping with many WP:PW precedents for pages names. GaryColemanFan (talk) 13:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose there have been four professional wrestlers alone who have used the name Kane, not to mention he is well known as Glen Jacobs outside of wrestling as well. –– Lid(Talk) 13:41, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I wouldn't consider The Unabomb, Doomsday, or Issac Yankem to be particularly well-known ring names, particularly since none of them have been used by Jacobs since the early to mid '90s. While the "Fake-Diesel" gimmick is more well-known, mostly for just how bad it was, it was dropped almost as soon as it was started. Jacobs has been best known as Kane for over a decade, something which I believe is bolstered to some degree by the fact that he stayed in character while promoting and at the debut of See No Evil.Odin's Beard (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose-I have to agree with GCF, Jacobs has been known for many ring names, unlike Calaway who has only used some form of "Undertaker" since his introduction to the WWF/E. Jacobs used to be called Diesel, a well known name, Isaac Yankem, also a well known name.--~SRX~ 14:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Lid. -- ♥NiciVampireHeart♥ 17:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done King iMatthew 2008 21:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Err

If the consensus of this was "not done", why was it just moved? Did I miss someting? --Kaizer13 (talk) 22:20, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the move. King iMatthew 2008 22:32, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

are half of the matches and other things in wwe fake and just stories ??

please tell me if anyone knows abt this precisely —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.240.234 (talk) 16:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP is not the place to ask these sort of things, but yes. Actually a lot more than half. But still, Wikipedia is not a forum or anything like that. THE $R$ Habla!Hancock 04:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unless it is a worked shoot, the answer is yes. The most recent worked shoot to occur in WWE was "Rowdy" Roddy Piper's mention of Santino Marella being arrested on charges of Driving Under The Influence. Aside from that, roughly 99% of the things which occur in WWE are storylines. Things that occur in the WWE outside of the normal storyline typically end up as storylines one way or another. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ talk 03:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kane's Height

is Kane really 7ft or 6 foot 8?--75.65.177.96 (talk) 23:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He's taller Taker, but shorter than khali, he's 7 foot. Altenhofen (talk) 03:31, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kanes brothers

People don't believe kane has brothers but they're Rashon Davis and Nick Davis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.140.74 (talk) 23:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glen Jacobs' Divorced To Maurisa

Jacobs divorced Maurisa in 2005. Jacobs is now married to Rica also known as Jopay. Rica is an Orchestra Conductor in California, She used to a dancer. They met at the backstage of Araneta Coliseum in the Philippines with her twin sister Ria. They have a son, Dustin Blake Jacobs (2007). Rica is expecting two baby girls this year.

Source? per WP:V? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 03:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moveset

I think a dropkick should be included in his moveset.He uses one almost every match. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmoneysmith (talkcontribs) 02:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the Snapmare followed by a low running dropkick. --KingOfDX (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glen Jacobs was born on April 26, 1968, in Madrid Spain. He was trained by Ray Candy and Dean Malenko. He made his pro debut in either 1993 or 1994. The early part of his career was marred by horrible gimmicks including the Christmas Creature (a wrestling Christmas tree), Dr. Isaac Yankem DDS, and Fake Diesel. Despite rumors and story lines, he is not related to the Undertaker or Paul Bearer, never married Lita, knew a Katie Vick, and only Glen Jacobs played the part of Kane. The Secret Revealed: After several months of threatening the Undertaker about a dark secret, Paul Bearer let the world know that Undertaker killed his family in a fire but his brother was still alive. At the first Hell in a Cell match, Kane made his debut by costing Undertaker a match with Shawn Michaels. Undertaker refused to fight Kane until he was burnt alive in a coffin at Royal Rumble 98. The Never Ending Feud: Kane and Taker fought for the first time at Wrestlemania 14. Prior to this match, Kane attacked Pete Rose for the first of 3 consecutive WrestleMania attacks on Pete. The Kane vs. Undertaker feud has been on-and-off since. Sometimes the Undertaker is the bad guy and sometimes Kane was the bad guy. They seem to turn on one another and become friends again on a regular basis. What is Continuity?: When Kane appeared, he wore a mask and had sleeves to hide his disfigurement from the fire. He also was unable to speak without aid of a voice box. Today, Kane wrestles without a mask or shirt on and can speak. In addition, he used to be dim-witted and continually threatened with being put in a mental asylum. Details of his physical and mental healing have never been revealed. Feuds With Triple H and Shane McMahon : In late 2002, Triple H revealed that Kane murdered his ex-girlfriend Katie Vick. A few months later, Triple H beat Kane in a match where he had to unmask. Kane went insane and started to set people on fire and even beat up Linda McMahon. Her son, Shane, came to her rescue in one of the worst written feuds ever. Lowlights included Shane getting a car battery attached to his testicles and Kane falling into a burning dumpster and being unmarked the next week. A Bizarre Love Triangle: Lita slept with Kane to keep him from beating up her boyfriend Matt Hardy. He wound up getting her pregnant and won her hand in marriage by beating Matt. A few weeks later, Gene Snitsky caused Lita to have a miscarriage. This event seemed to bring them closer together, but Lita wound up being with Edge when details of their real-life relationship caused Matt Hardy to be fired. Kane, The Big Show, and May 19: These giants were brought together by a Taboo Tuesday vote. That night they won the tag team titles. Combined, they are almost 14 feet tall and weigh close to 1,000 pounds. The tag team broke up because Kane went insane when he heard the words May 19, which is the release date of his first movie, See No Evil. That movie, while not a critical success, has proven to be a commercial success. WWE Title History: WWE Title 6/28/98 King of the Ring - beat Steve Austin in a first blood match ECW Championship 3/30/08 WrestleMania XXIV - beat Chavo Guerrero Intercontinental Title 5/20/01 Judgment Day - Triple H 9/30/02 - beat Chris Jericho World Tag Team Title 7/13/98 - with Mankind beat The New Age Outlaws 8/10/98 - with Mankind beat Steve Austin & The Undertaker 3/30/99 - with X-Pac beat Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett 8/9/99 - with X-Pac beat The Acolytes 4/19/01 - with Undertaker beat Edge & Christian 8/19/01 SummerSlam - with Undertaker beat Dallas Page & Kanyon 9/23/02 Unforgiven - with The Hurricane beat Christian & Lance Storm 3/31/03 - with Rob Van Dam beat Lance Storm & Chief Morley 11/1/05 Taboo Tuesday - with The Big Show beat Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch WCW Tag Team Title 8/9/01 - with Undertaker beat Chuck Palumbo & Sean O'Haire

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Advertisement —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.58.36 (talk) 03:51, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Is he dead or alive?"

I noticed that "he" linked to The Undertaker's page. It has not been confirmed that Kane was referring to Undertaker. I think it should be removed. - Sapp

"Heel turn"

I just want to put this out there: who says this is a heel turn? Kane's a tweener, something like this doesn't automatically turn him heel, not yet. Not in my mind, anyway. 3pointswish (talk) 03:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. He has attacked all kinds of people (think of Jamie Noble the week before on Raw) so it doesn't necessarily mean he is a heel. 69.61.221.25 (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]