Talk:Pope John XII

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Really?

It would be nice to see even ONE SINGLE CITATION on this article. All I hear is, "Someone said..." over and over again.

Year of birth, age when Pope

Before I changed it, our article said that he was born in 938 and became Pope when he was 16. Our source is obviously the 1911 edition of Britannica. However the more recent edition of Britannica claim that he was born in 937, and became Pope when he was 18 years old. The Columbia Encyclopedia and MSN Encarta also support 937 as the year of birth. The online source Catholic-forum.com also support 937 as YOB. The Catholic Encyclopedia says "Date of birth unknown". I can't find other sources than the 1911 Britannica, that support the claim that he was 16 years old when he became Pope/938 as YOB. So I changed it for now. I also removed: "Some legends say he was actually 18 when he died, but if that were the case, he would have only been 11 at the time he became pope." It was added by an anon user: [1] and I can't find anything that support the claim, so until a source is provided, I think it should be removed. Stereotek 06:58, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Because it is my favorite .sig line ever, I have to include this (found on soc.hist.what-if )

"There is furthermore a sentence in your letter more fitting for a stupid boy than a bishop. You excommunicated us all if we appointed another bishop to the see of Rome, and yet gave us power to celebrate the mass and ordain clerical functionaries. You said: 'You have no power to ordain no one.' We always thought, or rather believed, that two negatives make an affirmative, if your authority did not weaken the verdict of the authors of old."


--Excerpt from a letter in which a synod of fifty Italian and German bishops came together in 963 to depose Pope John XII, citing sacrilege, simony, perjury, murder, adultery, incest, and the use of a double negative.

Kd5mdk 20:12, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)


John XII, was confirmed by many historians as worst Pope ever. He was killed in bedroom when caught with someones wife. --90.157.231.38 (talk) 12:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or had a stroke while with another man's wife http://time.com/4633580/young-pope-history/ Legacypac (talk) 21:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted in LGBT cats

Pope John XII was a LGBT Roman Catholic pope. That should be sorted in catsegory.

--188.96.230.248 (talk) 20:52, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]