Talk:Punch (combat)

"Casting Punch"

I have only found references to this on the Fight Nerd video about the Mixed Martial Artist Fedor Emelianenko's striking, is there any more source for this style of punching? Does it have a different name? Also that particular punch they are attempting to replicate is just a quick haymaker with a lot of body weight and technical body movement in it, you can see the striking part of the hand is often the inside of the fist, the side, or the wrist/forearm area if you slow it down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.203.150 (talk) 23:43, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Star Trek punch

Does anyone have a name for the silly linked double-handed strike, which Kirk uses in Star Trek, and which was common in barfights in Hollywood westerns?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.162.245.162 (talk • contribs)

Yeah, it's called the "Kirk chop".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.80 (talk • contribs)

Most techniques have many names, and the only one I know for this one is the 'Mongolian Chop'. I've only heard it referred to this way when it's done in a downward motion. Chaos0mega 02:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

What about a rabbit punch? Perhaps it refers mostly to the target, but to me anyway that term also connotes a hands-together double punch. --204.155.226.2 18:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Punches are not weak

Punches are not weaker than kicks. Who writes this stuff? Not someone who trains in kickboxing or mma, that's for sure.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.80 (talk • contribs)

Of course they are. The leg is a heavier limb controlled by a larger and more powerful group of muscles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caerodyn (talk • contribs) 11:10, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Closed Fist attack

And I'd like to know the source that says a punch is a "closed-fisted" strike. Sounds very non POV—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.85.30 (talk • contribs)

Better Picture

Can we get a better picture, that one is weak/lame/ poor technique—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.228.197.25 (talk • contribs)

Hey thanks for whoever changed it to the "jab" this new picture is GREAT!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.58.43.121 (talk • contribs)

How to Punch

I feel there needs to be a section on how to punch properly without hurting the thumb and alike. Wikipedia is very vague on this, and should expand since many amatures might hurt themselves. Also i cleaned this up a bit so its more organised :)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.3.208 (talk • contribs)

People should not be learning to strike from an encyclopedia.Chaos0mega 02:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

the jab, cross, hook, and uppercut

I think the above also need a better referance in this article, or at least a summary. They outline basic punchs, which is what a punch article is all about!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.11.3.208 (talk • contribs)

Wing Chun punch

Actually, several Wing Chun and Ninjutsu practitioners DO spar against resisting opponents. The suggestion that no one spars in those arts is biased and probably an attempt to denote traditional martial arts by some UFC-fan.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.227.53.224 (talk • contribs)

June 29 Revision

Greetings all. Here is a further breakdown of what I edited and why:

• I reworded the opening text which appeared vague and needed some differentiation from "strike." I pulled out a definition reference for it.
• There was a part about arthritis which was unverified and I replaced it.
• The part about wrestling was unnecessary because it has no punches, therefore no reason to have it here.
• In several places there are phrases alluding to the fact there are many different kinds of punches; by reason of redundancy I removed those phrases as punching by nature is varied.
• Moved the one inch punch reference to the Wing Chun section
• Removed the part about the elbow not being locked out - This is a technical matter, too instructional.
• Removed the numbering system in the Boxing punches section. This seemed more on how to punch rather than what a punch is.

In many of the descriptions of the punches it seemed more like agreed urban definition/instruction rather than research. There is a lot of excellent information there, however while much of it may be true, over half the types of punches listed were unsourced and made the article look like a guide on how to punch. There was some terminology that disturbed me in places where the description of punches went beyond being descriptive and into the land of instruction. I feel the article should not instruct or serve as a standard of judgement where people can come in and see if they're doing a punch "correctly", as in this case I feel "correctness" is subjective and a maneuver should be described in its most basic terms if possible.

What this article needs next:

• good, descriptive and properly referred punches and descriptions
• help the unsourced, undocumented punches with clarification
• Ninjutsu section clarification - knowledgable persons need to put in the work here.
• Karate section sources - see above
• External link cleanup
• Fraser Drew - no article exists for this person who is mentioned here

Thanks for your time, I think this article can be much improved still.

Deadlystrike6 02:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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I removed a statement in the wing chun section which alleged that the verticle-fist punch using the bottom three knuckles as a striking surface "keeps the wrist in proper alignment and reduces risk of injury to the wrist."

I removed it rather than tagging it with the 'citation needed' tag because I consider it to be arguably incorrect -- and potentially dangerous -- misinformation. Jayess (talk) 12:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Long-term effects of punching on the practitioner's body

"Contrary to some opinions, it is joint overuse,[11] in addition to other factors such as improper technique and protection, not punching as an activity in itself, that is responsible for the development of osteoarthritis."

Can someone rephrase that. It confuses me and does not seem to be proper english.71.59.104.213 (talk) 06:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I second that. It should be split into two sentences. --71.225.75.183 (talk) 02:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Citation Needed ?

What's with all the 'citation needed' tags in the section that summarizes the various sorts of punches? If nobody objects, I'm going to remove the tags soon.Jayess (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

History of the Punch is needed

The "modern" punch is indeed modern, it first appeared with English boxing in the 19th century, I believe. This is not in away verified. I ask for someone to update with this important information. In the middle ages the hand was used as a mace, swinged sort of as a hook and hit with the side of the closed hand (inside up) or the back of the forearm, or a strike similar to a palm strike, targeting the face. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.130.32 (talk) 09:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely. Every single person in the Middle Ages went through their ENTIRE lives without ever once considering an obvious movement we moderns make naturally. Of course, you can prove this. Leushenko (talk) 00:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

They didn't need to throw punches back then, they were all bombing it around in helicopter gunships ;) Ryan4314 (talk) 01:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Why is the Japanese name for punch there?

Yes, if this was a strike exclusively by a Japanese style or something, then yeah, I see why it should be there, but otherwise I think its unnecessary and kinda stupid. Either put how to say/write "punch" in every language, or remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.93.115 (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Stick Figures...?

...Just a recommendation...It would be nice (in my view) to have some diagrams of how the various punches are actioned in practice. ....For the benefit of those of us who know nothing about punching (...apart from maybe being on the "wrong end" of one from time to time....). Thank you.

82.5.68.95 (talk) 01:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC) == Most Punch Strikes Record? == 7May2011

Who's this Pakistani referenced as the world record holder? Says who? Why isn't he listed on the GWR site? Currently it says: "The most full contact punch strikes in one minute is 805 by Robert Ardito (Australia) in Sydney, Australia, on 18 March 2009." Citation please! or delete... I would, but am not sure how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.89.79.167 (talk) 04:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Japanese name?

Seriously? I didn't realize the Japanese invented punching. Other languages should be added to that list if it is to be kept. Otherwise this is just gratuitous Weeaboo bull. -- 66.92.0.62 (talk) 09:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)