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Reverted undiscussed page move

I reverted a page move, per WP:RMUM, as the correct article title may be potentially controversial. I have created this discussion here, to ascertain whether "Taskmaster" or "Taskmaster New Zealand" has become the WP:COMMONNAME yet for the series, a currently "Taskmaster" still seems to be most commonly used in reliable sources. Happily888 (talk) 07:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happily888: I just noticed your reversion.

From WP:COMMONNAME:

Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title, is sometimes preferred. However, do not use obscure or made-up names.
• Example: The word "French" commonly refers to either the people or the language. Because of the ambiguity, we use the alternative but still common titles, French language and French people, allowing natural disambiguation. In a similar vein, hand fan is preferable to fan (implement).

From WP:DISAMBIG:

When there is another term (such as Apartment instead of Flat) or more complete name (such as English language instead of English) that is unambiguous, commonly used in English (even without being the most common term), and equally clear, that term is typically the best to use.

Natural disambiguation that is unambiguous, commonly used, and clear is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation; for instance, Fan district and hand fan are used instead of Fan (district) and fan (implement). If no unambiguous, commonly used, and clear natural disambiguation is available, another type of disambiguation is used.

The television show has often been referred to as "Taskmaster New Zealand" (both within itself and elsewhere) from the beginning. Per our longstanding conventions, an article title containing natural disambiguation need only be common – not the most common – to be preferable to one containing parenthetical disambiguation. —David Levy 06:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ==Reverted undiscussed page move==
 I reverted a page move, per [[WP:RMUM]], as the correct article title may be potentially controversial. I have created this discussion here, to ascertain whether "Taskmaster" or "Taskmaster New Zealand" has become the [[WP:COMMONNAME]] yet for the series, a currently "Taskmaster" still seems to be most commonly used in reliable sources. [[User:Happily888|Happily888]] ([[User talk:Happily888|talk]]) 07:55, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
+:[[User:Happily888|Happily888]]: I just noticed your reversion.
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+:From [[WP:COMMONNAME]]:
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+:{{talk quote block|Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English [[Wikipedia:SOURCES|reliable sources]], albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title, is sometimes preferred. However, do not use obscure or [[WP:NOTNEO|made-up names]].<br />• ''Example'': The word "French" commonly refers to either the people or the language. Because of the ambiguity, we use the alternative but still common titles, [[French language]] and [[French people]], allowing natural disambiguation. In a similar vein, [[hand fan]] is preferable to [[fan (implement)]].}}
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+:From [[WP:DISAMBIG]]:
+:{{talk quote block|When there is another term (such as [[Apartment]] instead of [[Flat]]) or more complete name (such as [[English language]] instead of [[English]]) that is unambiguous, commonly used in English (even without being the most common term), and equally clear, that term is typically the best to use.}}
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+:{{talk quote block|Natural disambiguation that is '''unambiguous''', '''commonly used''', and '''clear''' is generally preferable to parenthetical disambiguation; for instance, [[Fan district]] and [[hand fan]] are used instead of [[Fan (district)]] and [[fan (implement)]]. If no unambiguous, commonly used, and clear natural disambiguation is available, another type of disambiguation is used.}}
+:The television show has often been referred to as "Taskmaster New Zealand" (both within itself and elsewhere) from the beginning.  Per our longstanding conventions, an article title containing natural disambiguation need only be common – not the ''most'' common – to be preferable to one containing parenthetical disambiguation.  —[[User:David Levy|David Levy]] 06:27, 14 February 2024 (UTC)