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::: I think it's not especially notable. Millions is uncited and unconfirmable (a download isn't a viewing). Even the [[screener]] page doesn't mention notable screeners. [[User:171.71.37.207|171.71.37.207]] 19:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
::: I think it's not especially notable. Millions is uncited and unconfirmable (a download isn't a viewing). Even the [[screener]] page doesn't mention notable screeners. [[User:171.71.37.207|171.71.37.207]] 19:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
:These kinds of leaks happen all the time these days... not especially notable. [[User:Hill of Beans|Hill of Beans]] 17:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:These kinds of leaks happen all the time these days... not especially notable. [[User:Hill of Beans|Hill of Beans]] 17:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

==GA Review==
I found the article to be throughly informative and well-sourced. FA status is not far behind. [[User:The Filmaker|The Filmaker]] 00:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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Credit Gags

Well, I saw the movie and noticed a few credits gags. First off, near the end they play a few of the same credits, but giving the people japanese names. 2. lisa asks the family if they can wait and see if any animals were harmed. 3. at the end, an "Assistant manager" cleans up the "Theater"

71.183.51.41 01:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So? And there Korean names anyway... Gran2 07:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean they gave them japanese names as a joke? how thick are you? Most of the animation is done in Korea since the show started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.51.103.64 (talkcontribs)

Dubbed/subtitled?

Are the international versions dubbed or subtitled? — mattrobs 08:29, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dubbed. Gran2 08:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Of we're going for unsourced statements her then I'll say: Subtitled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.131.68.194 (talkcontribs)
The voice cast have regular dub stand-ins who dub the series, at a guess the same people would have done the film. Darrenhusted 08:58, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
In Denmark you can choose between a dubbed and a subtitled version. --Maitch 09:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The important thing to notice here is that international versions are different. The Simpsons movie is dubbed in some places, and not in others. It depends on the traditions of the media in that country/region. I guess a good indication would be to investigate whether the simpsons tv episodes are dubbed or subtitled. In Sweden, it's subtitled, since dubbing is used exculsively for movies and programs directed only at children. In very few cases (Major Disney relases, Harry Potter) are two versions available in theaters. Kriko 14:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose in Europe it`s French dubbed. In Quebec, it`s also French dubbed, but with their own slang. ~~Gamesrcool~~

Good Article review

I have taken on the task of reviewing the article The Simpsons Movie nominated by Gran2 for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. A full report of the review will be posted when the review process has been completed. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. .:Alex:. 19:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Screenshot of Movie Trailer

I fail to see how this fails WP:FU, as that policy reads-

  • Other promotional material: Posters, programs, billboards, ads. For critical commentary.
  • Film and television screen shots: For critical commentary and discussion of the cinema and television.

Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 19:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So how does it contribute as critical commentary? Alientraveller 19:57, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It shows the marketing techniques used to promote the movie, the same as the other screenshot. Dalejenkins | The Apprentice (UK)'s FA plea-please have your say! 19:57, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, the image has no point at all. What exactly in the article does the image aide, aside from one clause in the plot? It doesn't add anything, not even commentary on the plot. As this has nothing really to do with overall plot of the film. And, in the marketing section, that doesn't mention the scene at all. You may be able to add a Fair Use rationale, but it isn't fair use, it purely a useless decorative image that has no place here other than decoration. And a marketing technique? What that Fox released a trailer? Wow we so need two images for that... So I'm sorry, but the image does not satisfy a claim of fair use. Gran2 22:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be removed?

"As of August 4, 2007 a DVD screener has leaked onto the internet, making it the best quality release to date. Other releases have been camcorder copies and Telesync copies."

Is it appropriate to inform people about illegal download information? Andy120290 23:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why not. --211.27.216.1 01:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not appropriate and it has been removed. Gran2 06:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It seems appropriate to mention that an actual dvd critics only screen copy of this years biggest movie has been leaked on the internet. JayKeaton 07:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well not really, it wasn't even cited. Also what makes it so notable? Was it actually reported by any news agency? Gran2 08:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Worst Article Ever

The whole article needs cleanering up, it does need a section for trivia and it does need a section for a possible issue of a sequal. There is loads of stuff missing that it relevent, please rectify this 80.229.169.189 11:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AVTRIVIA. So frankly you're hardly in a position to comment then. Alientraveller 11:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I wasn't aware that "cleanering" was a real word, I'll have to use it more often... As for a possible sequel, see WP:RS. Gran2 11:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My grammer has nothing to do with this article. I fail to see why trivia sections should be avoided, they are important80.229.169.189 14:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Did you not read the policy? Because it clearly shows that they are not important. Gran2 14:33, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Trivia sections are not needed here and in fact they should be avoided completely. Also, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. These are Wikipedia Policies, and if you fail to recognise them then you should not edit on Wikipedia. .:Alex:. 16:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neon Genesis: Evangelion---theme?

While viewing the movie, I was reminded several times throughout of the old Anime: 1. The corporation EPA and their helicopters = NGE's EVA and their large scale assaults + heli's are almost identical 2. Dome = Angel's shields (were they called AT Fields?) 3. Homer's Epiphany = Shinji's numerous experiences, almost identical, with the clapping hands and such, 3.5 the boob-ladie's blowing into Homer's mouth remind me of the NGA's women cleavage and kissing scene (during Shinji's dream?). 4. Homer's pig = Masato's penguin

maybe more? A metal shard 16:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a reliable source, otherwise its original research and not appropriate for the article. -- MisterHand (Talk to the Hand|Contribs) 16:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, no? That's pretty stupid, you're obviously some Anime fanboy finding something out of nothing. So you're implying that a pig is similar to some penguin simply because it's a pet? Ok, well maybe Lasie was based on your anime show, remember the Air Bud? Well, by your logic, it's GOT to be based on it. --71.238.255.214 23:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A metal shard 05:10, 8 August 2007 (UTC)--71.238.255.214 , excuse me? Putting aside your first calling my idea stupid, then attempting to justify it all in one sentence (is it really relevant who I am, even if I were an "Anime fanboy"?), I would like to add that rebutting (is that even a rebuttal?) 1 out of more than 4 potential claims doesn't exactly thoroughly disprove the idea... Now I'll just pretend that your last three sentences are helpful at all, and call them constructive criticism: Please, would it help if I claimed that this film had themes from something YOU were a fanboy of (here, I'll actually say that I'm making the pretense of you being male at all...)? Maybe if you had seen the anime show, watched the movies, played the games, read the manga, or set foot in Japan, you wouldn't be so quick to claim that I was implying anything... hint-hint: maybe I meant exactly what I said. Thanks, MisterHand, but I doubt an RS for such a movie, and indeed, for such a show, would exist anywhere, at least currently.[reply]

You know I actually think it could be a complete coincidence, but it seems so very close. Hopefully the DVD will provide a clue. Gran2 06:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While watching the movie, I also made the connection between Homer's epiphany and Shinji's Instrumentality. The two scenes are near identical. However the rest of the aformentioned connections are absurd. Many movies have pets and helicopters, so does that mean they are all referencing Evangelion, and comparing the dome to an AT field is complete nonsense. One is designed to keep people in, the other is designed to keep people out. Juts adding my own two cents here. Hellspawn 12:14, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sequel

Wow, i thought Wikipedia was the best resource for information ever but i was wrong, if anybody stayed for the end credits to this movie they would see that "apparently" Maggie's first word was Sequel, even though her first word was Dada, but none of the Simpsons family knew about it.

And that should be included in the article because? Its just a joke, trivia and nothing to with the plot, unless there is actually confirmation they will make a sequel, its has no place in the article. Gran2 20:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I stayed up to the end of the credits. I even saw the squeaky voice nerd washing the cinema. I know Maggie said "Sequel", but it proves nothing. It`s only a small question so everyone may wonder if there will be one or not. Here what this section would look like:

Is a sequel possible? As Maggie says the word "sequel" during the credits, everyone may wonder about this. But as no resource or other details are available, the sequel, if there is one, is still secret.

~~Gamesrcool~~

Could a "Memorable jokes" section be placed?

I saw the movie two times, once at the premiere Friday 27th and the following Wednesday, and I suppose, with the same spoiler advertisement and serious writing, that there should be a section where many memorable jokes could be told. By example, the famous joke when Marge asks Homer why the silo is overfilled after only 2 days. Well, there would be a spoiler advertisement. The funniest jokes only. I know it would be a somehow big section. But it would be great. ~~Gamesrcool~~

No, sorry. It would just be trivial retelling of the movie, and whose to say which jokes are notable? Wikiquote is the place for memorable, there's a link to it at the bottom of the page. Gran2 22:05, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the ...

Spoiler warning??? --66.169.9.118 21:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:SPOIL. Alientraveller 21:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do you expect when you see the Plot section in an article? No spoilers?...--Svetovid 20:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not only that but the plot has been trimmed of most jokes, so they are not spoiled. Darrenhusted 15:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Goofs

Who deleted my goofs section of this article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rukifelth (talkcontribs)

Reference List

Since the reference list was long, I decide to make it so you have to scroll up and down to see all the references. Mr. C.C. 06:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted it, because the actual scroll ref template was deleted for a reason. I personally don't see the benefit of it, why does it really matter whether there is a long list of references at the bottom? Gran2 07:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Illegal Download?

Hello wikipedians and editors,

I went to the source that the simpsons movie is illegally download such as torrent, limewire, ares with basic etc. From what i'm saying is this film is illegally download without permission to the owner of fox? Rickengothic 2:19 am, August 12 2007 (UTC)

All movies are pirated sadly, so it's not notable. Alientraveller 11:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The movie leaked in DVD-quality (DVDSCR) 2 weeks after Premiere. This is quite notable, millions of people watched the movie 6 months before commercial DVD release.
I think it's not especially notable. Millions is uncited and unconfirmable (a download isn't a viewing). Even the screener page doesn't mention notable screeners. 171.71.37.207 19:57, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
These kinds of leaks happen all the time these days... not especially notable. Hill of Beans 17:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

I found the article to be throughly informative and well-sourced. FA status is not far behind. The Filmaker 00:06, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]