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Inaugurations before 1937

Should we include/clarify (if a source is available) that vice presidents were sworn in (separately from the president) on inauguration day in the US Senate chamber, due mainly to their being president of the US Senate? GoodDay (talk) 17:13, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The 15 who later became US President

Where & how do we include the fact that 15 vice presidents went on to serve as president? GoodDay (talk) 14:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A sentence to that affect has been added; it was inadvertently left out while I was editing the article yesterday. Drdpw (talk) 14:26, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Capacity to reject electoral votes as officer presiding over their counting

@Drdpw Given that one of Trump's plans to remain President involved having Pence unilaterally reject certain electoral votes, and that people looking for information on this subject could end up at this article, I think it is appropriate to add a sentence explaining the issue to the subsection describing the VPOTUS's function in presiding over electoral vote counting, as follows:

Around that time, some Trump supporters proposed that Pence unilaterally reject electoral votes from certain states, giving Trump a majority of those certified; it is generally agreed that the Vice President does not have that power, per the wording of the Constitution and the Electoral Count Act, as well as common law principles.^[1] Robert (talk) 00:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Fichera, Angelo (1 February 2022). "Vice president doesn't have power to 'change the outcome' of elections". Associated Press.

This is not the proper article in which to detail the finer points of alternative views of the VP's election certification powers. The proper articles, both of which cover the topic, are Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election and 2021 United States Electoral College vote count. Drdpw (talk) 19:48, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should the "P" in "president" be in uppercase (article title) or not (article lead)?

Apokrif (talk) 13:42, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Uppercase - This type of situation was handled about a year ago with Deputy Prime Minister of Canada's title. GoodDay (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In Talk:Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_Canada#Use_of_capital_letters_in_the_titles_of_Canadian_federal_government_ministers ? Apokrif (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That deals with info within a page, but not the page name. GoodDay (talk) 19:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This RM says upper case for article titles. GoodDay (talk) 19:36, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are you requesting the article title be changed to Vice president of the United States? If so, that would require an RM. GoodDay (talk) 19:32, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm asking what the right spelling is. Apokrif (talk) 22:19, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're confusing me. Which are you asking about? The article title or the article intro? GoodDay (talk) 22:35, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Both. Is there a reason why they should have a different spelling? Apokrif (talk) 15:27, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The current article title (Vice President of the United States) and the current opening sentence ("The vice president of the United States (VPOTUS) is the second-highest officer...") both follow MOS guidelines. Drdpw (talk) 16:29, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get this either. What's the difference between the article title and the lede that makes one capitalized and the other not? :3 F4U (they /it) 00:35, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concur with Drdpw. GoodDay (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course according to the laws of the English language, it should be capitalized. This is not only because its a proper noun, but it is an official title that transcends the original meaning of "president" (to preside). Its analogous to the titles King or Queen, which are always capitalized even if used mid-sentence. 203.46.132.214 (talk) 22:47, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Fichera, Angelo (1 February 2022). "Vice president doesn't have power to 'change the outcome' of elections". Associated Press.

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