Template talk:COVID-19 pandemic data

Mobile ?

@Orangewarning: : Hey, can you tell us more ? Yug (talk) 15:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I added some class to the header. Is it still ok on mobile ? Yug (talk) 15:16, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I can see it on my phone, if I know to tap the box that says "More information: Country/region, Confirmed cases ...", at the top of the Geographic diffusion section. Jw 193 (talk) 17:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah it is visible now. Orangewarning (talk) 14:37, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Fatality rate

It's premature and inaccurate to have a fatality rate that is literally just (currentDeaths)/(currentCases) when the epidemic is at such an exponential growth phase. The true fatality rate takes a long time to emerge. There is a reason researchers have been hesitant to release concrete numbers on this matter. --Charsum (talk) 19:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Charsum: I messaged the user who made the addition, so he understand the choice. Yug (talk) 23:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Unique source for the whole data ?

@Jw 193:,@Graeme Bartlett:,@BegbertBiggs:,@Tezakhiago:,@Nguyen QuocTrung:

AP has a table with cases, deaths, and date of first case. This UNIQUE source could be helpful for us. The 3rd information could be interesting to store for later (animated map). I'am just a bit embarrassed, the page is a feed, so I don't find any stable link to cite this table properly. NYT is also starting a tracker. Yug (talk) 23:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Naturally, if one country has fresher data, we can use multiple sources as well. Be we will move from 60 sources to 4~6 sources. Yug (talk) 23:45, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

You'll note that AP is a full day behind, for China. If we want data with days of lag, the daily WHO situation report is more authoritative, and looks slightly more up to date. Jw 193 (talk) 23:53, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Jw 193: I read Chinese, the Chinese Health Commission dropt that 20mins ago. (Google Translate). It report everyday at 8am local time the stats of the 00:00am to 24:00 for the previous days, new and cummulative. Google Trans and I can help with this, and the daily report are on the same exact model everyday. ;) Yug (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I took out the note to editors on the template, as it was far too prominent, and as it is out of date, it is best to only use it for non-time-sensitive information (like first report). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I think on the contrary that we could use it for most cells, and complete the cells which are outdated by relevant sources. Could help us to drop most sources and ease our work. Yug (talk) 00:47, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Use it if you want, but make sure it is the most up to date at the time you use it, before removing other figures and references. Since it does not stay current, it's best to have several useful references listed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Chinese numbers

Hello Jw 193 ! Do you think HK, Macao, Taiwan should be substracted ? My Chinese source (CHC) isn't clear on this side. I can be interpreted both ways. Yug (talk) 00:31, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

That is why you need to use a source where it clear where the numbers came from. You would need to subtract numbers that that source uses. It may be 23, but that source may also be using out of date numbers, so you have to check every time before subtracting. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

The source I'am citing is the National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China's official daily report. I don't think we can do fresher, litterally : their daily reports are THE source. So who decides/decided if the 8 of HK are included or excluded ? I really don't trust news media to make the decision. Yug (talk) 00:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

We have decided here to list them separately, but you will have to check those sources used for their numbers per region/province. National Health Commission will include the three extra administrations figures, but do they list the numbers used? I like DXY as they have everything subtotalled per city. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Is it too late to save the world from the virus now?

As of this time! 19 countries are officially containing the infecting Corona Virus rise. With over 6000 infected people and over 130 deaths, it may be a chance but it may be too late to cure it if it continues among the next month. Which means we only have little time until the World is no longer a safe place to be!

Will Vaccines save us before the End of our lives?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AustroHungarian1867 (talk • contribs) 08:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes. Yug (talk) 12:23, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

There are encouraging signs. Yesterday, for the first time, mainland China had fewer new cases, than the day before.Jw 193 (talk) 18:30, 29 January 2020 (UTC)