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Halostachine article

Ed, I've finally created my halostachine article, but would appreciate it if you could take care of some of the empty fields in the Chembox. The reason I have not done so myself is because I have no means of verifying the correct codes - there is some confusion in the sources available to me arising, apparently, from a lack of care in distinguishing amongst different names and, in particular, different stereoisomeric composition. I'm pretty sure the CAS No. and Pubchem codes I've entered are correct for the natural R-enantiomer (and I've set up the Chembox specifically for this, as opposed to N-methylphenylethanolamine of unspecified stereochemistry), but not absolutely certain. Sorry to add to your work load, but if it's left to all-comers, I'm afraid the wrong numbers will get in there. Thanks.Xprofj (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't mind at all. I confirmed the CAS#, but the PubChem ID gave an error when I click on the link. I changed it to the PubChem ID for the racemate - I couldn't find one for the (R)-enantiomer. I added SMILES, StdInChI, and StdInChIKey. It's a very good, nicely written article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou, Ed.Xprofj (talk) 14:39, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

User:Aggravated_Measures

WHY IS THIS PAGE BLOCKED AND DELETED http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aggravated_Measures

I am the owner and label, VTT / Comm Cast. This electronic music group is formally advertisted and published. If I was advertising here, I would have put a link here to buy their content.

For reference, here are their links: https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/aggravated-measures/id523779902 http://open.spotify.com/artist/1iDHx2KCaoUpB2q5ED4yLt http://www.youtube.com/TheHouseOfEDM http://www.youtube.com/user/VincentTofficial

My email: VincentTofficial@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by VincentTofficial (talk • contribs) 16:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia usernames are not permitted to match the name of an organization, so that's why I blocked the account Aggravated_Measures (talk · contribs). You were free to sign up for an account with a different username. If you wish to create an encyclopedia article about Aggravated Measures (which should be titled Aggravated Measures, not User:Aggravated Measures), please read Wikipedia's guidelines for notability first, to see if it qualifies, or the article may end up being deleted anyway. I suggest that you take a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines as well, which seem to apply here. (username policy, notability, conflict of interest). I hope this helps, -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:20, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Effective method

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Unblock request of User:Mongobongohongo

I've reviewed the unblock request of this user, and I'm willing to give them a last chance. Do you have any objections to an unblock?  An optimist on the run! 08:34, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

From the discussion on the user talk page, I don't see any specific mention of the their first three edits which were blatant BLP vandalism. If they acknowledge that they understand the seriousness of those edits and agree not repeat such behavior, then I have no objections to unblocking. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Yldon Company Article

Hell Edgar181,

If a Company is the sole holder of foreign patents, sole sponsor of a World Champion and a benefactor on a small country like Albania, helping the Albanian Red Cross and some orphan help center NPO (non-profit organization) do you deem it non worthy of sharing this information with it's own country, in it's own language?

Further more, do you consider yourself as an Albanian moderator to fully understand it's content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oranews (talk • contribs) 14:14, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

The version of Yldon Company that I deleted contained no content that indicated the significance of the company and it therefore met criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD#A7). A later version was deleted by another administrator because the text was unambiguously promotional. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

UAA

Hello Edgar, regarding the recent usernames which I had reported to WP:UAA, both of the accounts which you had removed (which are here and here) where both of them are blatant and gross violations of username policy and I was just doing my part of reporting them to the relevant noticeboard and not wasting anyone's time. Nothing in the username policy states that accounts which have disruptive and offensive usernames should not be blocked if they are just months or years old, as violation is still a violation and is present there. Because they would definitely have been blocked if they were spotted at the right time, but they weren't so I was doing the remaining work. No one knows when any user might come back and start editing and/or maybe even vandalize with those accounts. So it is better to take safe measures and to prevent any disruption/vandalism/trolling from happening on Wikipedia. I hope you understand. Regards. ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:16, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) TGU, we've talked about this before. Reporting and blocking these accounts does nothing but draw more attention to them, which is the opposite of what we want. Just leave them be. As for policy, the instructions for UAA read in part: "Do not report a username unless it has been used in the last 2-3 weeks. Older accounts are likely abandoned." It's really not helpful to report these years-old accounts. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

(ec) I appreciate your efforts to deal with inappropriate usernames. However, the instructions at UAA are quite clear: "Do not report a username unless it has been used in the last 2-3 weeks." There is a good reason for that rule. There are literally thousands of abandoned inappropriate usernames. You may find it is worth your time to look for them and report them, but frankly it is just a waste of time for administrators to either block them or decline the report. Let's deal with the actual, current problems instead. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Look at IP's before you block them

Someone else edited on a different IP address (75.39.13.239) and you blocked my IP (76.226.115.236). I was not on the different IP that time and you just randomly assumed that it was my IP! Read before you block! Unblocking my IP would be greatly appreciated!

198.111.167.130 (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

If there is someone else making the same disruptive edits as you, then blocking them is appropriate too. If you want to be unblocked, you will need to request an unblock at User talk:Dy11111 addressing the reasons for your blocks (instead of trying to hide them). -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for rollback ASAP due to absence of anonymity

I would like to request a rollback on the talk page

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gary_Goodyear
    (e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Gary_Goodyear&oldid=535192796 )

for the singed comment(s) I just made which reads as indicated below. I meant to make the comment anonymously and did not realize I was logged in. I think my comments are not inflammatory, but this is a touchy subject and I am not in a position to become personally enmeshed in this debate. (Yes, I know that anonymity on WP is not complete, but it is at least discrete).

Firstly, merely saying something is "evidence-based" does not mean it is based on the scientific method; a failure to appreciate this distinction constitutes a serious misunderstanding of what the term "science" connotes, which is an entire method of inquiry, .... At the very least the discrepancy between his education and training and the scientific education and research community at large, seems worth mentioning more explicitly.

I've hidden that comment from the talk page's history. (Admins can still view it though.) Does that work for you? -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:02, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Nexus501 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:42, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Discussion on the AFT5 Request for Comment

Hey Edgar181 - this is to notify you that there is a discussion starting on the Article Feedback RfC talkpage that has ramifications for the RfC itself. Your input is much appreciated :). Thanks! and apologies if I've missed anyone Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:38, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Iamrakeshh (talk · contribs)

Thanks for taking care of them so quickly, really was becoming a pain. Werieth (talk) 15:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Synephrine article

Ed, I need some advice. I've been sneaking up on the synephrine entry, trying to inject more science and diverse references into it without ruffling any feathers, in preparation for a major re-write. Unfortunately, from the recent changes made to my edits by another editor (I'm afraid you'll need to look at the History for details), it seems that I've run into someone with an Agenda. I have no intention of getting into a to-and-fro with this person, who is clearly not a scientist (and who went as far as deleting my disambiguation to m-synephrine because "there is no article on it" - there is: M-synephrine, as opposed to m-, gets re-routed to phenylephrine!). Indeed, I would like to walk away from the whole thing, but the synephrine article gets something like 500-600 hits a day , and it's important for it to be correct (and the original version was pretty poor to begin with). The problem really centers on the lay equation of "synephrine" with "nutritional supplements" that contain it as part of a mixture, not to mention public ignorance of the difference between parenteral and oral activity. I have invested considerable time in studying the literature on synephrine, but have not, so far, put too much time into the writing.

What I believe needs to be done is to simply marginalize commentary regarding the public's use of synephrine-containing supplements, and to dispassionately treat synephrine as just another phenylethanolamine with such-and-such properties, as I have done with related compounds. Supplements containing synephrine should have their own entry - they are merely one facet of the uses and properties of this compound. However, if I take this tack, I'm apt to have a huge amount of writing trashed by at least one anti-synephrine-supplements crusader. Not to mention that the main reason the article gets so many hits is precisely because people are interested in synephrine from the supplement angle! Based on your experience with comparable situations that have doubtless arisen in the past, as well as on your interpretation of what information a WP article such as "synephrine" should actually contain, please advise how I might best proceed. Thanks. Xprofj (talk) 15:59, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand your frustration and would be glad to help out, but unfortunately due to some health issues I don't currently have much time for Wikipedia. I will be happy to take a close look when I am back to normal. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. GET WELL SOON.Xprofj (talk) 13:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

I should have some time to take a look at the article today or tomorrow. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:54, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I've had a chance to look at synephrine and the edits you've made so far and they look good to me. I like your approach to editing - it is very thorough and the articles you’ve worked on are significantly improved by your contributions. Don’t worry too much about how other editor’s may respond to your edits. If you stick with following Wikipedia policy – reliable sourcing, neutral point of view, etc – then regular constructive editors will undoubtably appreciate your article improvements. For articles where “"nutritional supplementss" and alternative medicine are involved, it is not unusual to get some pushback from people who have a particular point of view, and do not care so much for Wikipedia’s reliance on reliable sources, or WP:MEDRS in particular. If that happens, I will certainly be glad to back you up. Or you can seek assistance from the Pharmacology and Chemistry WikiProjects. Other editors may also be willing to help out (User:Yobol comes to mind). -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:35, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate your taking the time to look into this, and for your support, as well as suggestions of where to find more. Synephrine has turned out to be the biggest can of worms I've had to tackle - there seems to be partisanship even in some of the primary literature - and all over a compound that people consume every day in their orange juice. In any case, I'm slowly putting my new and improved article together, and will let you know when it's ready. Thanks again, and welcome back!Xprofj (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Synephrine PS

I guess one has to have the courage of one's convictions. I propose to go ahead with a major re-write, using the following lead as my starting point:

"Synephrine (also known as Sympatol and oxedrine, amongst numerous other names) is an alkaloid, occurring naturally in some plants, as well as a synthetic drug which has various adrenergic effects when taken parenterally (i.e. by injection). This substance is present in relatively low amounts in common foodstuffs such as marmalade and other orange (Citrus species) products, both of the "sweet" and "bitter" variety. It is currently marketed, in combinations with other drugs such as caffeine, as an over-the-counter stimulant and weight-loss-promoting nutritional supplement for oral consumption. The effectiveness and safety of these preparations have been widely debated in the press and on the Internet, as well as in the scientific literature. This article will focus, insofar as possible, on synephrine itself, rather than on the drug mixtures containing it. Synephrine, in terms of its chemistry and pharmacology, has been as thoroughly investigated as many other drugs, and its properties are a matter of record in the scientific literature. As a prescription drug, synephrine, under various trade names such as Sympatol, was once used as a parenterally-administered sympathomimetic in clinical settings. Such use is now obsolete. Extracts and preparations of plants such as Bitter orange (Citrus aurantium), which contain synephrine amongst many other constituents, have long been used as herbal medicines, particularly in Chinese Traditional Medicine.

However, it is important to distinguish between studies concerning synephrine as a single chemical entity (and even here it should be borne in mind that synephrine can exist in the form of either of two stereoisomers, which are chemically and pharmacologically distinct), and synephrine which is mixed with other drugs and/or botanical extracts in a "Supplement", as well as synephrine which is present as only one chemical component in a naturally-occurring mixture of phytochemicals such as the rind or fruit of a Bitter orange."

I hope you will approve of this approach, and I am interested in some feedback, but don't want to waste your time unduly. Thanks.Xprofj (talk) 23:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

User_talk:Dy11111#Stop_editing_Chemboxes

Hi there

Would you like to take a look, and comment? Thanks. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 00:37, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I trust your judgement and have no strong objections to unblocking this user. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for permanent block

You blocked this IP before temporarily for vandalism, and it still continues. User talk:85.90.91.82 is a known proxy server and there were attacks on pages again this morning. I tried contacting someone with Rollback but had to edit manually before they got back to me. I appreciate you looking into this, thanks Bearpatch (talk) 16:37, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

It looks like another admin has today imposed a short block on the IP. If the problem persists after the block expires I will re-block for much longer. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protection request

Hi there. Me again, just dropping a note to ask if you would consider a one month semi-protect lock on Jack Harries. He's a young YouTube personality who recently just hit one million subscribers and his page has been attracting a lot of "tween" fan attention (I'm just guessing the channel is probably being heavily promoted by YouTube since it hit one million subs a few days ago). As with other articles I've written to you about in the past, the problem isn't exactly "vandalism" per se, but the article is just attracting a lot of little 12 year old girls declaring how "hot" he is, naming themselves as his new "girlfriend", etc, and it's just getting tiresome. I have a couple of sources I can add to beef up the article but monitoring the page is becoming a time suck, so it would make life easier for the handful of us adults watching the page if we could get a little break (hopefully the "fan" frenzy will die down in a month). Thanks in advance. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 23:49, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, due to some health issues I don't currently have much time for Wikipedia. I will be happy to take a close look when I am back to normal. In the meantime, I suggest WP:RFPP or simply contacting another admin this time. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't see the template at the top of this page when I posted. I'm sorry to have troubled you. Hope you're feeling better soon. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

No worries, the note at the top wasn't there when you posted. And you're not troubling me. I have semi-protected the page for a month. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. :-) I'm hoping one month will be a sufficient "cool down" period for the page, but we'll have to wait and see. If not, you may be hearing from me again. lol.. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 01:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

awww :(

Hope you feel better! <3, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:45, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm feeling much better, but still recovering from surgery. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

File:Sanaz Alasti.jpg

The following picture is in violation of copyright, and has been deleted by you before on December 10, 2012: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sanaz_Alasti.jpg The file has been uploaded again by a serial infringer: Kabirat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flower2013 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted the file because a clear indication of permission is needed per w:commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sanaz Alasi.jpg. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

About my last talk page comment.

Hi. You asked me what IP adress the school was. I did a little research and it is: 209.56.239.1 . If you can look it over that would be great! Thanks! Pure Awesomeness Commonly called Evoogd20 03:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I blocked that IP address for 2 years because of a long history of persistent vandalism which led to several prior blocks of 6 months or more. Because of this long term problem, I don't think it is a good idea to unblock the IP address when the person responsible for the most recent vandalism has left the school. However, I have removed the "account creation blocked" setting from the block so that anyone who would like to contribute constructively to Wikipedia can sign up for an account using the school's computers. It is best for anonymous editing from that IP to remain blocked though. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! Pure Awesomeness Commonly called Evoogd20 17:05, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

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Brian Melvin deletion

What was the reason you deleted a prior article on the jazz drummer Brian Melvin? He's made a significant contribution to the music world - just see Jaco Pastorius discography for a start. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatphil (talk • contribs) 08:48, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The prior article was not about the jazz drummer. I deleted Brian Melvin because it was essentially nonsense. The entire contents were "Chairman of VS RUGBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" If you wish to start an article about someone else with that name, and you think that the subject meets our inclusion criteria (see for example WP:BIO and WP:BAND), then you are free to create a new article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)