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Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi

Hi, @Goldsztajn:, I needed a little help, as I am not sure what should I do. Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi is more common name of the subject, rather than, Muhammad Zakariyya al-Kandhlawi, this Al is mostly taken from Arabic and per my knowledge we should not use this, until any worth need, I would request you to fix this. Regards. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 11:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

I am also working on the submission about his son, recently deleted through AfD at my 4th sandbox. Requesting you to give it a view. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 11:25, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi AaqibAnjum, give me a few days to look at these and I'll come back to you. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 10:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @AaqibAnjum: regarding changing the title of Muhammad Zakariyya al-Kandhlawi. I assume the al- was added once he started living in Saudi? In order to change that we would need to have a reason for the change which can be explained with references to sources. The problem I can see is that if one searches for his work as it appears in English I found seven texts where his name as author is al-Kandhlawi and only two texts where his name as author is without the al-. So, on that basis we would need to leave the title as is. How is he named in his Urdu language texts? If you can show that in the preponderance of his texts as author he is called Kandhlawi (rather than al-Kandhlawi), then I could mark the page with a requested move template and invite comment. I'll look at your draft in the next 24 hours. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 19:28, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Dear Goldsztajn, I see this al all due to effect of Arabic. Infact, some prefer using it. But per my studies about the Deobandi scholars; there is no use of al anywhere. See this article on Nawaye Waqt, Pk, and this is from monthly Faqeeh published by Pakistani known Deobandi scholar Muhammad Ilyas Ghuman, it too uses the term Kandhlawi in Urdu. Moving forward with this, here Mohammad Najeeb Qasmi uses Kandhlawi in Urdu. Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi writes a book about Mawlana Zakariya and he too uses Kandhlawi

Rekhta uses Kandhlawi as well, see
This website of Darul Uloom Nadwatul Ulama also uses Kandhlawi and this article from Jamia Binoria also uses Kandhlawi. Hope this suffices. Regards - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 19:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC) Darul Uloom Deoband in its fatawa also uses the term Kandhlawi and this PhD thesis about Mawlana Zakariya from University of Karachi also uses the term Kandhlawi. Best. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 19:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

AaqibAnjum I think the issue that will take the highest relevance will be how he is credited as an author. A directory or catalogue will provide the best justifications; it's a lot harder to assess when there are sets of links. Someone may just respond with a six or seven Arabic works? I've just noticed this [1] which possibly suggests the most common usage is Muḥammad Zakariyyā. It's very complicated, as the right hand column shows an extraordinary variation in the names by which he is referred. What do you think of a move to just Muḥammad Zakariyyā? I don;t have a problem for the move, but it's important that there is a clear and precise justification. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 20:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Goldsztajn, Give me sometime. I'll try getting some Catalogues. I myself being an Indian know the usage of Kandhlawi; as you see with Muhammad Ilyas Kandhlawi, Muhammad Yusuf Kandhlawi, Muhammad Saad Kandhlawi and others; like Inamul Hasan Kandhlawi — I would like to ask you for sometime. Regards -- Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 20:26, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Comments on Muhammad Talha Kandhlawi

Hi AaqibAnjum I've had a chance to look at the article in your sandbox. My assessment is that as it currently stands I don't think it crosses the threshold for notability. I see three major problems:

1. Sourcing – I did not check all the sources in the article, but many seem to be from religious institutions in some way connected to the subject of the article, so cannot be considered independent. The Millat Times is mostly acceptable, although it is possible to debate the source's independence from the subject; Nawa-i-waqt is a good source, but as far as I can see all that article is reporting is a claim that Muhammad Talha is still alive. The Google books link only shows Burhanuddin Sambhali's position, but does not indicate any relationship to the subject of the article (and from that source I cannot be certain Sambhali himself is notable).
2. Notability – Unfortunately, this is I think the most difficult part – what was he notable for? There is not anything in the article which I see which establishes his own notability – did he teach a new generation of identifiable scholars? Did he establish new centres of learning? Did he resolve significant disputes? Reading the sources it sounds as if he was a good person who served the movement he was part of with piety and sincerity, but that in itself does not establish notability.
3. Inheritance – Reading the article, I hope I am not being offensive here, the thing which stands out is that he had a famous father. One of the cardinal issues in wikipedia, especially with biographies, is that notability is not inherited.

I hope I do not appear too critical; I am just trying to give an honest assessment based on the WP:GNG. It might be possible to take some of the material and include it in the Muhammad Zakariyya Kandhlawi article, but without much stronger sourcing and content covering notability I think it will always struggle to be a stand-alone article. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 07:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Goldsztajn for the assesment. As far I can see, he was the successor of his father in Tasawwuf, and thus has a number of disciples, one among them being Burhanuddin Sambhali, one of highly known teachers of Nadwatul Ulama, Lucknow - as for the Tasawwuf part, I am working my best to find independent resources. He had best positions at 2nd top Islamic seminary of India i.e. Mazahir Uloom, Saharanpur — being its patron for years, and its general secretary. I am preparing University assignments and will look for some other offline references once I get free. I'm also trying to work on Burhanuddin Sambhali, it may help a bit. Regards - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (^talk) 07:44, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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Could you explain why you unreviewed that article? It's a well-formed and functional disambiguation... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 00:10, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Elmidae: I unreviewed it because checking the links I saw it disambiguates to Vietnamese language articles – my understanding was that disambiguation pages should only link to English language pages; but I'm not certain if that's policy, so I'm leaving it for someone else...or if you can point me to a policy which indicates this is acceptable happy to look at it again. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 00:31, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah, good catch. I've seen previous disambigs by this editor, in which he linked to the district only - those links are in the second and third instances. So I kind of ignored the added interwiki links to the commune. You are right that those shouldn't be in there - my mistake; will remove them (we want only one link per entry, anyway). Thanks! --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 01:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

I found the Vietnamese disambiguation page so added in the language links... possibly red link the communes although I cannot find them elsewhere, so probably not.--Goldsztajn (talk) 01:03, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Good catch, as it seemed that I was in the wrong here too. Thank you for letting me know about my mistake; I will be sure to be more careful with these interwiki links disambiguation pages. (It's not like they're the most common types of pages that come up, but it is important nonetheless. Usually disambiguation pages are created by experienced editors, and usually don't have many errors if they were created with the correct formatting.) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:49, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Nice work on GAN review of Cultural Racism

So helpful to have a social scientist around when we need one. Especially helpful that you were able to shed light on the early Ngram bump, and point to some of the earlier work that wasn't covered. LaTeeDa (talk) 00:58, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks in advance, regards--Goldsztajn (talk) 10:19, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Remove Unofficial Stats

Hi @Goldsztajn:, Please remove the unofficial "Metro GDP/PPP" numbers from the infobox and from the main article both in lead/economy section of the respective Indian cities: Kolkata, Mumbai, Hyderabad, Bangalore and Delhi. All the source are unofficial; none of them from Govt of India or State Govts source. So please remove those figures.--103.218.236.58 (talk) 04:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Please remove those unofficial data.--103.218.236.58 (talk) 03:45, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi - not sure what to call you... I haven't done these. I agree that the numbers are mostly meaningless, the trouble is I expect a lot of editors have a an interest in maintaining them. I think the best thing would be to try and establish the (un)reliability of the sources first, rather than trying to get into an edit conflict. You could make a request for comment here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks for your comment on Abhinit gupta previously it was fully promotional but am working on it and tried to remove the promotional sentence It will be your help Ifyou please guide me where I can improve the article thanks Easytostable (talk) 21:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@Easytostable: I'm sorry, but I do not think the article can be improved; it is not a problem of editing, he just does not meet WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO (none of the claimed awards are considered notable). --Goldsztajn (talk) 21:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

But the awards are not in the article Easytostable (talk) 21:45, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:ANYBIO indicates what is necessary for a person to be an article on wikipedia. Abhinit Gupta does not meet these criteria, I mentioned the awards because one of the criteria is an award, but the award has to be recognised, not an industry/PR award (which is what he has). --Goldsztajn (talk) 21:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Probably I am not able anything moreEasytostable (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2020 (UTC)thanks cheers

Probably I am not able to add anything moreEasytostable (talk) 21:53, 12 May 2020 (UTC)thanks cheers Easytostable (talk) 21:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Should we put speedy deletion tag over itEasytostable (talk) 21:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

I suggest just leaving it alone, an admin will make a decision soon enough. --Goldsztajn (talk) 22:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

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Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti

Hello Goldsztajn -- since it's been a few weeks since you expressed interest in doing the GA review for Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, I thought I would check in. Are you still able to take on the review? All the best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 17:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Alanna the Brave: thanks for the nudge and for your patience, yes, I will still do it – do you mind waiting till Sunday? Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 17:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Sunday is totally fine – whenever you've got time. Thanks! I'll look forward to your comments. Alanna the Brave (talk) 17:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@Alanna the Brave: My apologies, I got side-tracked, please give me 24 more hours.--Goldsztajn (talk) 23:04, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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Maria Mojirola Jolayemi

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I received a notification of the article you declined. Maria Mojirola Jolayemi is a public figure of Christianity in the South-west of Nigeria. I could not get more sources than those one. But I wish it could be published. What else can be done for it to be published? Many people hope that it would be on Wikipedia and search daily for it. I hope if you do not find this as an excuse you would be glad to provide help. Oduola Matthew (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

@Oduola Matthew: Hi - the problem with the article is, firstly, that there were no reliable sources and secondly it was not written in a neutral point of view. I did a basic Google search and I could not find any information other than some references on Facebook. I am happy to offer my help, but in order for me to help there needs to be reliable, independent sourcing of a person's notability. If you can find me a couple of sources which were not used in the draft, I am happy to look at them and tell you if they will help verify this person's notability. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 16:14, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, Goldsztajn I have created two articles as per WP:NPROF and WP:N whom I came to know while going through an IEEE journal as worthy to be included. I kindly request to review and patrol them and leave a feedback for further improvements. They are Avik Bhattacharya and Josiane Zerubia. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 09:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

A reviewer has already reviewed and provided the feedback. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 17:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amkgp: Hi - sorry I could not get to it quickly...but feel free to ask me again. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Sure and Thanks ~ Amkgp ✉ 18:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amkgp: - I just had a look at the articles; I'm a little concerned about the attributions of the photographs. A Google search shows the image of Avik Bhattacharya appears in colour at the website of the institution he is from... The image of Josiane Zerubia indicates that it is your own work....how is the photo yours?--Goldsztajn (talk) 18:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn:, I got from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Avik_2018_c-211x300.png. Actually before staring to write I searched if there is any article and found an abandoned draft on Avik Bhattacharya, I searched and found the original editor has uploaded two images. I used one of them. Regarding Josiane Zerubia I recreated from a hard print source that had no copyright issues ~ Amkgp ✉ 18:57, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amkgp: Hi - that means the photo of Josiane Zerubia is not your own work; the source has to be indicated. Please add the source to the commons file. Regards,--Goldsztajn (talk) 19:33, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Goldsztajn, OK I will do so. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 19:37, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

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