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Is impersonating an admin ok on Wikipedia? Is there a policy against it? It seems that ChrisO should not be encouraged to continue with this behaviour if it is against the rules. [[User:Breein1007|Breein1007]] ([[User talk:Breein1007|talk]]) 21:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Is impersonating an admin ok on Wikipedia? Is there a policy against it? It seems that ChrisO should not be encouraged to continue with this behaviour if it is against the rules. [[User:Breein1007|Breein1007]] ([[User talk:Breein1007|talk]]) 21:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:Can you tell me if impersonating an admin is against any Wikipedia policies please? Furthermore, I do not appreciate you calling me an ass. You have been warned against using personal attacks before, and while I appreciate you helping me get unblocked, those comments were not well received by me. It's discouraging to see on one hand an admin going on a wild power trip blocking people for things that aren't against any policies by any stretch of the imagination and even worse doing it on false pretenses (ie: I was 100% correct that the message was supposed to be given only by admins) - something I will be bringing up to the community to investigate in the appropriate forum, and then on the other hand to see an admin going around calling people asses. [[User:Breein1007|Breein1007]] ([[User talk:Breein1007|talk]]) 20:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
:Can you tell me if impersonating an admin is against any Wikipedia policies please? Furthermore, I do not appreciate you calling me an ass. You have been warned against using personal attacks before, and while I appreciate you helping me get unblocked, those comments were not well received by me. It's discouraging to see on one hand an admin going on a wild power trip blocking people for things that aren't against any policies by any stretch of the imagination and even worse doing it on false pretenses (ie: I was 100% correct that the message was supposed to be given only by admins) - something I will be bringing up to the community to investigate in the appropriate forum, and then on the other hand to see an admin going around calling people asses. [[User:Breein1007|Breein1007]] ([[User talk:Breein1007|talk]]) 20:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
::Stop harassing Malik. [[User:NickCT|NickCT]] ([[User talk:NickCT|talk]]) 20:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)


==Thank you==
==Thank you==

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Deir Yassin

I'm not misrepresenting him at all. In fact, it's what he said almost verbatim. If u don't have his book I can sent u the link to the page. And why did u revert Bard. If the article contains sources from Khalidi, Mcgowan and Pappe, it can certainly include Bard.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 03:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He does not say a "small number of combatants" he says "civilians and combatants." And you are correct, civilians precede combatants, apologies for that.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:01, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He says "(including combatants)" he doesn't say "small number." That's a mischaracterization.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Look, I don't want to fight or edit war. But it's frustrating when the likes of Ilan Pappe, Daniel Mcgowan and Rashid Khalidi are peppered liberally throughout but when I dare mention Bard, he's immediately rejected as a propagandist. I challange you to find one person who does't have a personal opinion on the matter. That's why we reference all sources and that includes both sides of the divide. Bard did lot's of research on this including digging up archived material. There are many authors and academics who support his research and methodolgy. His standing is at least equal to Pappe and the others. respectfully,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:26, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why did u section blank? There are four sources noted for that edit. Please explain--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 06:07, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind. I checked the so-called problem and your edit simply demonstrates the length to which you'll go to protect the one-sided narrative. I quoted whatever I took directly from the source and paraphrased the rest. I don't think that should pose a problem.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 06:24, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I block quoted one of the quotes so perhaps you didn't realize that there were other comments that were also placed in quotes. The small portion of the edit that wasn't in quotes was paraphrased and so I didn't want to quote edits that are paraphrased.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 06:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If u still think there's a problem, please let me know what it is and I'll further revise but please don't revert and give me a chance to fix.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 06:52, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a violation when I place their comments in quotes and attribute it to them?--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 15:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I looked it up. According to the guidelines it may be used if it's "brief quotation used in accordance with non-free content policy and guideline." so I think I'm okay. If you disagree, please let me know and I'll adjust accordingly. Respectfully,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 15:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I request you self-revert. I checked WP:COPYVIO and saw no problem. I paraphrased whatever required paraphrasing and attributed the rest. This tactic on your part is unbecoming of you. Instead of reverting, tell me specifically what you don't like and I'll re-work it. If you don't, I'll assume bad faith and take a guess at what you what me to change and then I'll re-insert it.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 18:33, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I'm re-working it. If there's still a problem, please let me know and I'll self-revert and tweak it further. Respectfully,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 18:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is this better? If not, let me know and I’ll revise further.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 20:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Malik, please have a look at my last comment on the discussion page and let me know if you're open to the possibility of compromise based on the suggestions offered or perhaps you have your own suggestions. I'm willing to listen. Respectfully,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 16:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thirteen principles of logic

I have added the above to the Judaism article; Wikiwatcher keeps deleting it because it is just one man's opinion and esoteric. I am happy to discuss at length with you why I think this is important but for starts, I think the articl is sorely lacking in balance when it emphasizes doctrine and ritual over other elements of Judaism. Anyway, I hope you will comment. Happy Shavuot, Slrubenstein | Talk 10:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Redlink

Hi! I noticed this edit

I am going to restore the redlink. Here's a secret - Sometimes we want red links (even in featured articles) - Why? This is to encourage article creation. We (I am speaking for Wikipedia as a whole) want to encourage people to write new articles. Specifically the prison where Malcolm X spent time needs its own Wikipedia article. We can't remove the red link. Either the link stays red, or it becomes blue. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • I decided to go ahead and start writing the article. It's turning out to be pretty interesting... WhisperToMe (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for MEDCAB Mediation

The request for mediation concerning Israel and the apartheid analogy, to which you were are a party, has been accepted. Please watchlist the case page (which is where the mediation will take place). If you have any questions, please contact me.

Ronk01 (talk) 03:11, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Michael Ochs

The DYK project (nominate) 18:14, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

Civility Award
Despite a slight pro-Israel, you have a demonstrated ability to see both sides of the story and to speak to both sides with a level head. In my book, that makes you all right. Here's to you Malik. NickCT (talk) 21:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2 DYKs

In the tasks-to-review at WT:POLAND. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 21:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikignome Award The Wikignome Award
For your constant help with wikignoming things. Thank you, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:59, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Impersonating an admin

Is impersonating an admin ok on Wikipedia? Is there a policy against it? It seems that ChrisO should not be encouraged to continue with this behaviour if it is against the rules. Breein1007 (talk) 21:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you tell me if impersonating an admin is against any Wikipedia policies please? Furthermore, I do not appreciate you calling me an ass. You have been warned against using personal attacks before, and while I appreciate you helping me get unblocked, those comments were not well received by me. It's discouraging to see on one hand an admin going on a wild power trip blocking people for things that aren't against any policies by any stretch of the imagination and even worse doing it on false pretenses (ie: I was 100% correct that the message was supposed to be given only by admins) - something I will be bringing up to the community to investigate in the appropriate forum, and then on the other hand to see an admin going around calling people asses. Breein1007 (talk) 20:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stop harassing Malik. NickCT (talk) 20:38, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

For confirming the ARBPIA notifications that I posted earlier. I'm sorry you had to waste your time with this. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles#Modification to notification template. Grateful for your thoughts. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Breein has now posted a reasonable unblock request. could you take a look at it? Powder Hound 3000 (talk) 00:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]