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Notified these, 2021 and June 2022 on talk page
Important article, not kept updated sufficiently, long list of concerns on the talk page not yet resolved. No medical articles at FAR currently so I'm nominating this. (t · c) buidhe 06:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

• Ajpolino has made a lot of improvements to this article recently, great. Are you planning to save this FA? (t · c) buidhe 10:18, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  I'd like to, but there's lots of updating to be done. Give me a couple weeks to plug away at it, and we'll see how far I get? Ajpolino (talk) 15:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  Ajpolino is making good progress; we can probably "call in the troops" for further improvements whenever he is ready. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

  Improvements continuing, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

  Alright, I'm feeling optimistic this article can be thoroughly updated without too much pain and suffering. Just a note, starting Tuesday I'll be traveling for two weeks and will have limited (or perhaps no) editing time/access. I'm hoping I can wrap this up with another week or two of editing. So if I could get a month extension on this, that would be much appreciated. Thanks all! Ajpolino (talk) 17:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

  Holding still, and I see Axl surfaced (hooray!). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:22, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I am going to try updating some of the older references in the next couple of months. Axl ¤ [Talk] 20:59, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Slow but steady progress. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Note: further discussion at Sandy's talk (t · c) buidhe 15:08, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Of relevance, here (else will be lost in archives). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:26, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Update, slow going but steady improvement heading in the right direction. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:33, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

• Could we get an update on status here? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:58, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

  Ajpolino is still making improvements, their last edit was 24 Feb (t · c) buidhe 07:06, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

• Ajpolino, how are things going here? Nikkimaria (talk) 15:18, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

  Just a few major to-do items left. I'd say the article is ~90% overhauled/updated. I've saved the most time-consuming research dives for last, so this last 10% is slow-going. My apologies to the FAR watchers for the slow progress. We're near the "end" here. Ajpolino (talk) 17:10, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

  Better a gradual save than a quick delist (t · c) buidhe 02:32, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

  Ajpolino? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

  First draft nearly complete! I just have two paragraphs at the end of the History section I want to look into separately. Also I haven't touched the images yet. At this point it would be a great help to get some feedback from anyone who has time to give the article a read. I'll ping a couple of medicine-experienced editors at the talk page, but if any non-medicine folks would be willing to read the article and give comments, that would be a huge help. Obviously, non-scientists are more the target audience.

  Thanks all again for your patience. I may have taken WP:NODEADLINE a bit too much to heart here. But I hope you find the article improved for the wait. Ajpolino (talk) 00:31, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll try to take a look this week - it's nice to see medical content saved at FAR, since there's a dearth of medical FAs. Hog Farm _Talk 01:57, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

The rest of the FA-med team has weighed in (meaning Colin, Graham Beards and Spicy), and the article is decidedly ready for some layfolk to read through; the end is near! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:00, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I've made it through the symptoms and diagnosis sections without seeing any major issues; will try to chip away at this during the rest of the week. Hog Farm _Talk 02:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

• (from the prognosis section) "Tumor mutations in KRAS are associated with reduced survival" - unclear to the layman was KRAS is, recommend linking or glossing
• "Despite high levels of gross research funding, lung cancer ranks in the bottom third of cancer types by NCI research funding per death, per diagnosis, and per potential years of life lost" - source is from 2012. Is this still particularly accurate?

That's all from me. Hog Farm _Talk 20:04, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your time and comments Hog Farm. Linked KRAS. For the funding issue, I can't find a more recent secondary source that covers the topic. If I rip the numbers off the National Institute of Health's funding by disease area page and divide the funding column by the death column it appears to still be true. I've rewritten the sentence to be sourced relatively cleanly from the table (though a division is left to the reader to verify). Do folks think that's ok? I don't think I've sourced something that requires a calculation at home before. Ajpolino (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Should be fine per WP:CALC. IMO this one is good to close w/o FARC. Hog Farm _Talk 19:29, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Gog the Mild you had hopes a few years back of scheduling this for TFA, but I thought it not in shape then; maybe you want to have a look at the revamping by Ajpolino (close to finishing up) ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:23, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

• Update - I think I've caught up to folks' comments/suggestions (though if I missed something, please feel free to point me to it). If anyone else was waiting for the dust to settle before weighing in, the article is ready for you. Have at it. Thanks again all for the comments. Ajpolino (talk) 15:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  I read it and couldn't find anything wrong with the prose. So I'd also support close without FARC. (t · c) buidhe 16:54, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  Leaning Close w/o FARC, barring any further commentary this week from Colin or Graham Beards. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:04, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

  Close w/o FARC (that's three). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Link to work on article talk for archival purposes. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:35, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

• Closing note: This removal candidate has been kept, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please leave the {{featured article review}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)