Talk:16th Street

Primary topic[edit]

@Pi.1415926535: Because 16th Street redirects to 16th Street NW, the latter is by definition the primary topic on Wikipedia for the term "16th Street", and my edit followed the guideline at MOS:DABPRIMARY.

If you think "16th Street" should redirect to a different article as primary, then you could make that change, and the article you redirect to should appear at the top of the disambiguation page. Or, if you believe there is no primary topic, and that the dab page should be moved from 16th Street (disambiguation) to 16th Street, then you could request that page move. But as long as "16th Street NW" remains the primary topic, it should appear first on the dab page.—ShelfSkewed Talk 06:00, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Then yes, "16th Street" should absolutely go to the disambig page, not to 16th Street NW. That article averages around 13 pageviews a day, compared to about 28 for the Oakland station, 11 for the BART station, and 90 for 16th Street Mall (also 67 for the church and 567 for the bombing, though '16th Street' is only part of their names). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:14, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, let's give it a go and see what happens. —ShelfSkewed Talk 06:46, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 August 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

16th Street (disambiguation) → 16th Street – Currently, 16th Street redirects to 16th Street NW. Per the comments above by Pi.1415926535, it does not appear that the street in D.C. should be considered the primary topic for this term. So the dab page should be moved to the plain title (unless there's a good argument that another article ought to be considered the primary). —ShelfSkewed Talk 06:44, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~. Ridiculously parochial. This is not Fifth Avenue. Delete the redirect if it bothers you. Redirects are cheap, and nearly no one cares, they are very poor reasons to make title decisions. 16th Street NW should be at 16th Street Northwest, not 16th Street no way or 16th Street New Westminster. Titles should be recongisable, and not misrecognisable to the majority. There are 15th Streets in cities around the world. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:59, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Your argument seems to support, rather than oppose, this move. Deleting the redirect and putting the dab page at that title instead is what I'm requesting, so there would be no primary topic and all 16th Street articles would be available equally to any user going to the title 16th Street.—ShelfSkewed Talk 11:51, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I read it backwards? —SmokeyJoe (talk) 14:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. There is no primary topic for "16th Street". Side comment support for moving 16th Street NW to 16th Street Northwest. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and 16th Street Baptist Church. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:23, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Nothing on the dab page is called "16th Street". They are all partial title matches. The only street numbered 16 that has a WP article is the one in DC. The dab page is useless, averaging zero views per day, and could be deleted. Station1 (talk) 09:15, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.