Talk:2008–09 NHL season

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Thinking of adding to "Debuts" or "Last Games"???

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New schedule

Instead of the 32+40+10 distribution (division+conference+interconference) from 2005-06 there will be 24+40+18 starting this season.

This way all teams will meet at least once each regular season, instead of missing five teams. --Bamsefar75 13:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Standings

Can someone give me the link to edit the standings? And can we consider not making it impossible to find the pages to edit them?CalBears99 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:54, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

When I first came across this I had trouble too. When you try to edit the standings on THIS page, you will get this on your screen:
{ {2008–09 NHL Atlantic Division standings}}
{ {2008–09 NHL Northeast Division standings}}
{ {2008–09 NHL Southeast Division standings}}
The double brackets {{ }} means that the section you are trying to edit is governed by a template (three templates in the example above) named with whatever is inside the brakets. So, if you want to edit the standings, just type "Template:2008–09 NHL Atlantic Division standings" in the search box of wikipedia. Note that in the example I used there are 3 separate templates, so you would need to do 3 searches.Juve2000 (talk) 16:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Note that the standings are not just used here, but are used in the individual team pages, so its much more efficient to edit the standings template when a change has to be made than it is to have every page having its own stand-alone standings and having to make 30 edits or more.Juve2000 (talk) 16:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
k, thanks so much guys. I knew that they were governed by templates, but it just took me forever to locate them. Thanks again.CalBears99 (talk) 22:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Europe games[edit]

In the European Openers section, "As of February 23rd 2009, all four teams who went over to start the season in Europe have fired their coaches, including the New York Rangers."

Sounds to be implying something along the lines of correlation/causation.Kingdomcarts (talk) 23:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Unless they have photographs from Amsterdam :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 06:47, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Re-seeding[edit]

Obviously last night's edit that seeded Vancouver 3rd in rnd 2 is not necessarily true ... I have forgotten our policy on that one... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 06:46, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

The "First games" section[edit]

Users are obviously using the section to put their favourite players in and when I try to set an inclusion criteria (first round pick OR award nominee OR all-star), they basically say "other crap exists." How can we possibly say who is a player of note based on one season alone? At least with my criteria, the included players have a place in the NHL history books. I tried to draw a line, but a user still said, "where's the line between unnotable and notable" and proceeded to add noms according to what he felt was notable. We should either have a criteria, or eliminate the section. -- Scorpion0422 01:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

We do have a criteria :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
... and it's right here (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Like all of that is about last games, not first. RandySavageFTW (talk) 18:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
No, it does specifically say "Two different sections on the season page for players who made their debut and players who played their last game in that season." -- Scorpion0422 18:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Rookies can't win 250 games or score 400 goals or have their number retired. The only way to get on it would be the first overall pick.. RandySavageFTW (talk) 21:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hence why it is a "players of note" section. Who is to say they will still be "of note" in 5 years, or even next year? With that criteria, included players will have a spot in the NHL record books. -- Scorpion0422 21:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
So we only include the first overall pick? RandySavageFTW (talk) 21:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
And Calder nominees, however there is only one who made their debut this year. -- Scorpion0422 23:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
It says major award winners, not nominees. If we're going to follow that, you might as well remove all the guys from the other seasons like Wellwood. RandySavageFTW (talk) 01:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
I never said that Steen and Wellwood shouldn't be removed, my comments are about this page. If you want to remove them, go for it. I'm not sure I agree with award winners only, as being nominated for a trophy is a big accomplishment. -- Scorpion0422 01:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sergei Fedorov[edit]

He's signed with a KHL team. Therefore until (and if) he returns to the NHL, we must consider this season as his last. GoodDay (talk) 22:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Chris Chelios[edit]

Now that Chelios has joined the Chicago Wolves of the AHL, shall we place him in the 'last games' section? Or, wait & see if the Thrashers call him up? GoodDay (talk) 15:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we need to put an asterisk next to players who are active in another league, or make the list into a table, with a column for retired or active in another league. Manny Fernandez is not playing anywhere, yet I doubt anyone thinks he's finished. Alaney2k (talk) 19:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree. -- ISLANDERS27 07:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Leading scorers table[edit]

It is all well and good to list the leading scorers for this (or any) season, but the sortable table is a joke when it consists of just the leading point getters. Jeff Carter was second in the league in goals scored and yet he is nowhere to be found (which is, admittedly, where he usually is come playoff time). So, leave the table, but make sure people aren't misled to think that they are somehow looking at an exhaustive list of statistical leaders.--172.190.1.131 (talk) 22:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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