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What was the rationale for removing this? Probably it's somewhere here, just couldn't find it. Alaexis¿question? 07:02, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I can't talk for the one who did, but I cant think of some. Generaly the credibility of Spiegel Online is very questionable as it tends to oversimplify events, is edited by few people and is known for releasing controversial articles without much reference, backup and evidence while promoting fact based journalism. What is the source for supposed "cable leaks" ? are any of the things they quote and claim even remotely valid when they don't even provide sources ? why is it written like the Russian side had literaly no play in the establishment of the sessessionist governments and aggrevation of tensions that lead up to mentioned pre-war clashes ? the article seems very one sided as in trying to portray Georgia the villain, while the major players and influencers US and Russia come off largely clean, giving the impression they were dragged into a war they never wanted, which seems to be the purpose of the article. At the same time other Spiegel articles describe the event and its background in a completly differently light. Inconsistent news magazines like that are simply unreliable on such matters. That's my 2 cents. TheMightyGeneral (talk) 13:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Well are there sources contradicting these assertions? I'll try to locate the cables... Looks like Spiegel is held to a lofty standard which lots of other sources on that page don't reach. Alaexis¿question? 19:07, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Actually I've managed to find a cable they refer to in 5 minutes. I believe this should be in the article. Alaexis¿question? 19:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
I agree with User:TheMightyGeneral that the tone of Spiegel article is not neutral. Spiegel has been known for publishing hoaxes — such as the Lübke English statements. Even the title of this thread is not neutral, since it was Russia who actually encouraged South Ossetians to begin hostilities. Canome (talk) 15:40, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Any newspaper or magazine has its share of issues and definitely each one of the hundreds cited in this article. There is no reason to single out Der Spiegel. Also, Bryza's message to Saakashvili has been reported not only by Der Spiegel but also by other media, for example by The Guardian and the article contains the link to the original cable itself. Note that I used the word encouragement only at the talkpage and it is not used in the article.
If you know of other sources discussing the US policy towards Georgia in the run-up to the war in light of the leaked cables, please add it rather than removing the paragraph altogether. Alaexis¿question? 18:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)