Talk:2021 French Green Party presidential primary

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On 13 October 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from French ecologist primary presidential election 2021 to 2021 French Green Party presidential primary. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 13 October 2021

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The result of the move request was: moved. low participation, but excluding a blocked sock this seems pretty non-controversial (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 15:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

French ecologist primary presidential election 2021 → 2021 French Green Party presidential primary – "French ecologist" is too literal a translation; while French sources use French: primaire écologiste English sources almost universally refer to the "French Greens" or "French Green Party" - not sure which is better. Also re-ordered to match current style for election article naming. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 14:40, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and wp:UE —blindlynx (talk) 14:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOCKSTRIKE. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she/they) 03:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose for now. If you say "English sources almost universally..." then give us some examples of English sources that say so. (And anyway, I presume you mean English-language sources). It does not matter what is on the ballot paper. There is a distinction between the Green Party (UK) and the Ecology Party. What do you mean by English sources? English or British? English language?

You cannot hope to bribe or twist
Thank God! The British journalist!
But seeing what the man will do
Unbribed, there's no occasion to.

— Humbert Wolfe

WP:UE has nothing to do with it, the title is patently in English. My problem is the assertions of use without any evidence.

Does French Wikipédia have an article about it? You're coming to the debate without any evidence. I have no idea what list you have reordered or for what reason, the French doesn't say anything if you don't lin if you're being pedantic of "Greens" or "Green Party" or whatever is the primary topic. first, I should like to see some evidence that English sources almost universally refer to the "French Greens" or "French Green Party". Hint: Try to find an English newspaper that is not also published in the other three countries of the United Kingdom.

You'll have to argue whether or not the Green Party (UK) and the Ecology Party are the correct topic. Once you bring some facts I may change my view.

85.67.32.244 (talk) 14:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clue: Both candidates stood for Europe Ecology – The Greens. Says so in the unsourced article's infobox. Are you arguing that that title is not in he English language? Certainly the article text isn't, but that can be fixed.Je sais rien plus, c'est-a-dire l'explication tombe. On a l'article, muy bueno rossz traduit, effendi, mais venir aucun shred de la verité, c'est not mal, c'est worse.85.67.32.244 (talk) 15:13, 14 October 2021 (UTC)e[reply]

It's not hard to find links. Top 3 on Google News are France 24 ("French Greens"), Euractiv ("Green Party candidate"), and Politico.eu ("French Greens"). User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 16:23, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, just jumping in on this. I translated the article originally & it is probably better to go with the greens - much more recognisable for an English audience. Plus, lots of English sources do refer to them as the greens - see ^[1] ^[2]. Most articles refer to them as the Greens and there are much fewer pages in English that do call them the ecologists. The general public tends to know more what 'green politics' is compared to 'ecologism.' Quinnnnnby (talk) 19:42, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

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[1] ttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/23/eco-feminist-sandrine-rousseau-shocks-french-politics-in-bid-for-greens-presidency

[2] ttps://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20210929-french-greens-pick-yannick-jadot-as-2022-presidential-candidate-elections

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