Talk:2023 Ecuadorian general election

when are elections to be held?

In article two of the decree issued by Lasso on 5/17/23 it says "notify the NEC to call elections within a period of seven days" - would this mean that they're supposed to have a snap election in seven days, or does the NEC have seven days to start planning them? Castroonthemoon (talk) 19:03, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

My understanding is the NEC has seven days to set a date for the election, which must be no later than the following 90 days. See BBC Mundo which gives some deadlines. But it's all a bit vague, uncharted waters: I saw one source claiming the deadline was 180 days (but maybe that included the 2nd round, if needed?). Moscow Mule (talk) 00:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Declared candidates

Declared candidates table should be changed. The current one is being used as President-VP nominee table on US Election Pages. 2002:7987:844E:0:0:0:7987:844E (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Redesigning the list of candidates

Please check the version of the article in the Spanish Wikipedia and you'll see a more dynamic use of the citations and elaboration of the list. I know, it's an exception of the rule. However, managing the page based of the information of what politicians thought before the snap elections, it's pointless at least for me. I'll make some changes and feel free to discuss them. Leo Bonilla (talk) 19:17, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit war

@Dirceu Mag: and @David C. S.: Can you please stop the edit war and talk here ? You're going to be blocked at this rate. Aréat (talk) 20:57, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Aquella es una SPA, bloqueada de la Wikipedia en español por manipular los datos de las encuestas. Trata de manipular los datos aquí también. Nuestra función aquí es publicar los datos, mas no interpretarlos, lo que está haciendo este usuario. -- David C. S. (talk) 22:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

The actual layout of the Presidencial Pools Section of the English Ediction page of the 2023 Ecuador General Elections , revised by Dirceu Mag is the correct one , the David C. S. versions are inacurate and , indeed , misleading.

Comparing the two versions , and reviewing midia Reference Notes in quotations, at this moment, from 1 to 52 , concerning the ones related to the table of Presidencial Pools , I list below the following uncongruencies related to David C. S. edictions :

1. The 5-6 Comunicaliza Pool to candidate Bolivar Amijos is coted on Reference number 40 as having vote intention of 0,1% and not 0, 5% as stated by David C.S.

2. David C. S. erased the full research period of all cited Pools ,leaving only the last reserch day , without explaining the reasons behind this action.The full research period is available in each note attached to any mentioned Pool ,there is no clear reasons to omite then,unless unfathomable ones.

3. I placed in the second column the candidate that scored the second highest percentage of votes in the most recent Pool, Comunicaliza,held on 6-7 July : Otto Sonnenholzner(12,8%).

David C. S. permutate the order of the columns,situating Yaku (10,3%) in second place.

4. I placed the candidate Jan Topić (3%) in the seventh column.behind Bolivar Amijos (0,1%) and on front of the sixth on percentage points,Daniel Noboa (4,5%).

David C S. also permutated the natural order of columns,placing Daniel Noboa in the 7th position and Jan Topić in the 6th column.

5.In the last two weeks,since the first Pool have been published on 22 June, David C. S is heavily indulging in the game of trunking columns...!

The candidates Yaku Pérez and ,in particular, Jan Topić had their moments of glory, however , they have been brief and flashy.

On 'Data Encuesta' Yaku got second place and Topić, third place and also,more astonishingly,got second in intention of vote diretly from the 7th position .on Mercanalis Pool,from 2% to 14% !

When it did happened,David C S. perverted the temporal sequence and permutated the order of columns both in the horizontal and vertical ones.

Insted of ordering the vertical percentage columns from top to bottom, according to the horizontal temporal order , he reversed the sequence of events. doing it from botton to the top : the candidate that got the higher percentage on the older Pool gain precedence on the vertical columns over the candidate that got a higher percentage rate in a more recent Pool.

He succed in placing Yaku Pérez aways in second place and , to make it easier , placed a 'bold' tipo [reserved to the candidate that achieved 2nd place ] on '8%', in the 6/22-26 'Negocios & Estrategias' Pool.

In fact , on this Pool,Yaku Pérez got 10/8 % and Otto 11/8 % , they are not tied.

The 8% on bold tipo is just a visual pretest to make it more acetable putting Yaku Pérez in the 2nd column in spite of the two most recent Pools placing Otto Sonnenholzner in second place.

David C. S. , also ,tried hard to place Jan Topic in the third column.

Displacing Jan Topić from the correct 7th column and apart from Bolivar Amijos that has 0% ,can help distort the public perception about the discrepancies between the Oficial Pools and the ones that bestows the highest percentage points to Yaku & Topić and avoid the occurrence of something that David C S. dislikes most : wiki readers objective reasoning and clear,truthful interpretation of events.

6. David C. S. erases completely the column of published [Facebook] 'America Elects' calculation of the valid votes [blancs and void abstracted] .

Most blatantly,just like a vandal , he don't say a single word justifying the reasoning behind this action , in particular.

Doing a lot of mischifs all together,in a bulk, make it easy not having of justify any of these wrongs in particular, it is not necessary being specific, giving explanations , going into details... , something that David C S. ,also, much dislikes.

7."Data Encuestas",the Pollster David C.S. respects most,the one he certainly will never kick off, again and again, as he have done with 'America Elects',on the contrary. bestows the Laurels of Victory , is a bizarre enterprise as he, himself.

The Reference Section [note 41] contain a link to the Facebook page of Diario Opinión , posted on 22 June 23:59 , on which is

stated that the full research date of the Pool is 5-9June 2023.

The Pool gives Luisa González 27,8% , Yaku Pérez (14,8%) in a close tie with Jan Topić (14,3%).

The Wikipedia page on Luisa González states in the Political Career Section , Subsection 2023 Presidencial Campaign, that "Luisa González was proclaimed on 10 June 2022 as Presidencial Candidade for the Revolución Ciudadana after Jorge Glas declined his candidacy".

This event couldn't be known beforehand so , it is , therefore. proved that no real Pool could have been done between 5 and 9 June including the name of Luisa González as Oficial Candidate of Revolución Ciudadana.

The "Data Encuesta",from Diario Opinión,is , therefore, just a scam to promote de candidacy of Yaku & Topić !

David C. S. , displicently and familiarly, requested the librarian Ruy to ban me from editing Wikipedia Spanish Language for a period of "infinitely",without even bothering to justify , giving one or two examples of wrongdoing from my part , pinpoint unacuracies as would be normally expected.

He was ,promptly,successful in his request , nevertheless, no one can hide truths "infinitely" or tell lies undefinitely.

Dirceu Mag Dirceu Mag (talk) 04:51, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

BLOCKED 🚫 FROM EDICTING by REAL SPA !

I have been blocked/unblocked from editing the Wiki by Librarian 'Number 57'.

I was working on Ecuador General Elections 2023/Polls Section, which have been, viciously, vandalised by David C. S.

After being, also, blocked on the Spanish Language Wiki by Librarian RUY, under the spell of David C. S. and ,briefly, unblocked, by request of 'Number 57' and then, blocked once again, by the same Librarian Ruy, that appears to be acting in CONIVANCE with a real SPA!

Each one of my corrections have been fully JUSTIFIED on the EDICT HISTORY Notes of the Ecuadorian 2023 Election Page":

See the 11 consecutive Notes written on 18 July from 8:18 up to 14:46.

Since then. David C. S. also, committed other misedicting acts, such as deleting the America Elects calculation, based on Negocios % Estrategias Poll, that gives Luisa González 52% of Valid votes [ discounted the Blank and Null ones].

During the brief period that I have being unblocked on the Spanish Ediction, I had opportunity, only, of deleting the blatantly fraudulent insertion by David C. S. of your fabricated "Pool" dated July 3.

I wrore a explanatory note to the Spanish Wiki's 'Edict Section' of 'Ellecciones Presidenciales de Ecuador 2023' on July 18 / 7:57.

Immediately afterwards, Librarian RUY, locked the entire 'Ellecciones de Ecuador 2023' Page, allowing David C S. procceed on force-feeding his already PROVEN FRAUDULENT EDITION, without being questioned!

This matter needs, urgently, CHECK AND INVESTIGATION by others Librarians and Burocrats!

Dirceu Mag Dirceu Mag (talk) 05:42, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Unblock Request

Request for unblocking of i.p.and user may username . 🚫 unjustified: no edicting including falsely stated data have been made. The editor David C. S., that made the request about banning me, was the one that, actually, introduced misleading information on Ecuador General Elections 2023 Electoral Polls Section. He was banned from the English Language Ediction, but is still very active on the Spanish one. Dirceu Mag Dirceu Mag (talk) 15:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Unfairly Blocked 🚫

Each one of my Ediction insertions, on Ecuador General Elections Electoral Polls Sections, have been fully justified on the Page History of July 18 , on 11 consecutive notes [please check]. David C. S. wagged a Ediction war on the English ahd Spanish Electoral Polls Section, deleting , again and again, anything that I had inserted, without pin pointing what I have done that he understood as unaccurate. He, then, reiterated his own versions, that have been proven false. He, furthermore, complained to admistrators, saying that the page have been attacked by a SPA, without exemplifying, being specific, on any, misleading, published data, actually proving that my account was a SPA, to justify his request. Dirceu Mag Dirceu Mag (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Updating urgently required

One of the candidates has been assassinated. Someone with expert knowledge needs to update this article! BobBadg (talk) 11:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

It has been updated accordingly. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 15:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I suggest that Fernando Villavicencio is added to Villavicencio's column to cross-out his name in the "Opinion polls", simillarly to how it's made in the 2024 Russian presidential election page to deceased/banned candidates. 2001:8A0:6A16:8301:143E:DD95:2EE2:29A (talk) 17:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

À propos: está permitido que una agrupación política o una alianza, reemplace a un candidato si es que este fallece ... antes de las respectivas elecciones ("a party/alliance whose candidate dies before the election can replace him/her"). So "Concluded: 9 August 2023" in the article is, I think, premature: it's still up in the air until Villavicencio's party makes a statement. Moscow Mule (talk) 20:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Makes sense. Let me remove it until we get a statement from the MC25. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

New polling data

Add a new entry to the 'Opinion Polls' table with the new poll from Comunicaliza done between 11th-12th of August https://www.as-coa.org/sites/default/files/imce_files/Encuesta%20Nacional%20-%2012.08.2023%20vy.pdf Miigs01 (talk) 10:11, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Added. Good find! I think the source is also useful for other polling opinions such as pressing issues, the referendums, etc. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

 Already done —twotwofourtysix^{(talk || edits)} 08:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Formatting for the election box

Would it be a good idea to add candidates who received over 5% to the actual wikibox, and then doing something like an eliminated for the second round? Like other first round-second round election wikiboxes I've seen. River10000 (talk) 14:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

I think we should just copy the templates from the previous election. Ymblanter (talk) 23:20, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

The referendum results are backwards?

The mining referendums pertain to a halt in exploration, so a victory of the 'yes', to my knowledge, is a victory against allowing mining and exploration of said regions... 2001:1284:F028:7861:2CB4:FA51:C871:713C (talk) 14:54, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2023

Ecuador 2023 General Elections Second Round Poll CORRECTY STATED and unjustifiedllly and persistently erased by editors! 92.40.204.136 (talk) 12:29, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Declined – no-one should be making edits on behalf of sockpuppets. Number 57 13:27, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Polls published in social media

Unless there are good arguments why we should keep these, all polls published in Facebook and Youtube must be removed from the list, per WP:RS. Ymblanter (talk) 05:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I agree with this position, polls from Facebook and Youtube are definetely not reliable sources and do little to add to the article. Jurisdicta (talk) 04:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)