Talk:A Whiter Shade of Pale

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Annie Lennox version[edit]

from Archives: "This article completely ignores the single release that Annie Lennox had with the song... I understand not wanting vaguely notable covers in a long, long list but this was actually a widespread physical release. 12.162.122.6 (talk) 20:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)" There was a partial list of cover versions which was deleted as arbitrary and lacking notability. But this little Annie Lennox entry is a lonely orphan and doesn't set out why this version is notable - can someone add that? Are there not other covers that are noteworthy also? (Sorry, not my field!) Davidships (talk) 19:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

ICI Duluxe paint TV commercial in the UK in 1980s[edit]

LOL, the compilers totally failed to mentioned a version of 'A Whiter Shade of Pale' was used in the ICI Dulux paint TV commercial in the UK in around the late 1970s and early 1980s. This was the best remembered use of the song/music and anyone over 45 years old will immediately recall the Dulux paint spot on hearing the song. Compilers, please include something about this in the main article. Thanks. 1.36.62.17 (talk) 16:59, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Lyrics[edit]

The repeated lyric, "As the miller told his tale" is quite important to the lyric content. The "tale" referred to is titled "The Miller's Tale" and appears in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales. It adds to the idea that the woman's face becomes more pale, as the subject of the miller's tale, in Chaucer, has often been considered quite bawdy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericursus (talkcontribs) 23:05, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I think this is definitely relevant information. Added to the Lyrics section, regarding the 'literary references'. It matters because one of the points of the article is that it was unusual to have a song like this in 1967... SuperWiki (talk) 10:31, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I've removed the statement that "the chorus focuses on Chaucer's "The Miller's Tale")" for the following reasons:
  • There is only a single line reference to The Miller's Tale in the Chorus. In the full set of lyrics there are quite a number of references to classic literature.
  • procolharum.com has some interesting articles about the lyrics. One important thing to note is that Keith Reid hadn't even read Chaucer before writing AWSOP.

Should there not be a section dealing with the widespread interpretation of the lyrics as referring to a death by drug overdose? ♆ CUSH ♆ 11:27, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Widespread? Pathetic.
Sure, if you can cite a WP:RS. Reify-tech (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Question of dates[edit]

It states that "a whiter shade of pale" was No1 one from 8th June 1967- 19th July 1967. I however contradicts a wikipedia page stating that "all you need is love" by the Beatles was No1 from July 7th 1967 for 3 weeks!!

Can you please tell me what song was No1 on the 15th July 1967.

Kind regards,

Scot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.128.163.90 (talk) 16:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Missing version[edit]

Johnny Rivers version of A Whiter Shade of Pale should have been cited in the article. It is absurd to the fact that an article about this song have omitted the version whose success almost exceeded the original one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.102.149.108 (talk) 19:04, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Recording and Personnel[edit]

Hello. The last sentence of the section Recording and Personnel seems incomplete. Did Procol Harum ever include this song on an album in the UK? Com Incense (talk) 06:29, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

It's on an album called - Live at Union Chapel which, as the name suggests, is a live version of the song rather than the more famous original recording. This version is also a verse longer.

Oblivion[edit]

The song was featured in this recently released movie starring Tom Cruise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.70.193.16 (talk) 17:14, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Crescendo[edit]

Something cannot 'reach a crescendo'.

Haha. Good one. Who writes this drivel?
Dunno. But something can reach a point at which a crescendo commences..... I've rewritten that sentence. Twistlethrop (talk) 08:54, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Procul Harum[edit]

i always was lead to believe that PH were a Dutch band not English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.47.92 (talk) 12:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

They are from Southend-on-Sea

Bach[edit]

How can a song be an adaptation of a cantata, a complex work in several movements? Possibly only one of the movements, the last? Please clarify.

Comments on lyrics and music[edit]

There is no drunken seduction. There is an attempt. Read the lyrics again. They're actually rather straightforward. Sex is not a form of travel. It's a busload of girls on a school trip - that's right in the lyrics. None of you ever been to a British ballroom?

There's nothing unusual about the song, either structurally or thematically, aside from Reed's inventive approach. What is truly unusual is how pundits, especially from the other side of the pond, try to make a myth out of this, exactly as they did with the Lennon (Glass Onion) and 'Paul is dead' hysterias. Not to forget that this was the age of burning Beatles albums. Not to forget!

If it's progressive, it must be (in the minds of our dear critics) because it had a Hammond organ. Seriously.

Yes, the C major composition has what's known as a 'bass pedal'. That's both easy to understand and illustrate. Effectively the chords are tonic, subdominant, dominant, and back again, with the bass going C-B-A-G (tonic to dominant) and then F-E-D-C followed by G-F-E-D, which means you can derive additional harmonies with the chords C Em Am C, F Am Dm F, G G7, Em G, and so forth. And of course you interrupt this pattern for the resolution to the 'chorus'.

The music does NOT repeat NOT 'borrow' from Percy Sledge. That's just ridiculous. As if no one in music had ever before used that progression. There are but certain similarities.

One would silently (and respectfully) wish that know-it-alls refrained from commenting on things of which they know nothing - such as music theory.

Have a great day.

PS. Congrats to Fisher. But it is important to note that the Law Lords focused on a 'signature' part (or 'hook') of an otherwise complete work.

Track listings??[edit]

Track listings of What? Can someone explain what that is, i guess some annie lennox release, but its not a listing of the referenced medusa album. And was it really a double cd with only 4 tracks on each disk?

Whatever it is i'm inclined to think it belongs on the annie lennox page and not here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.103.146.141 (talk) 11:27, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


on investigation it is also not the track listing for her ep Gjxj (talk) 18:08, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

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