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Affirmation and the LDS Church section

Recently an unregistered user came in and rewrote this section not adhering to NPOV. They also removed the main article link to the article I had written & referenced awhile ago to address many of these unreferenced, nonNPOV issues.

I've added back in some of the original content, but left in changes I thought were valuable additions.

One more thing to that editor and other editors with this misconception; aversion therapy, when using shocks as a negative stimulus, is not electroconvulsive therapy! Please don't call it that. It is misleading, wrong, not to mention embarrassing to Wikipedia. Chupper 00:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed paragraph "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints considers homosexual behavior..." etc. Notice that the section, and the article, are about Affirmation--not about the LDS Church. Link still refers people to article on homosexuality and the LDS Church.

Ex-Mormon

I removed link to Ex-Mormon. Affirmation is an organization for gay & lesbian Mormons, not for gay and lesbian ex-Mormons.

LDS Lobbying

I changed it where it said, "some Afirmation members in Salt Lake City protested the LDS Church’s lobbying and funding of initiatives in California and other states that were directed against homosexual behavior." The LDS Lobbying was aginst same-sex marraige, not against homosexual behavior.

I reverted the change. Marrying someone of your own gender is a homosexual behavior. When asked about gay marriages, Gordon B. Hinckly, president of the LDS Church, said "We're not anti-gay. We are pro-family." See the CNN interview with Larry King. You could say they were directed against same-sex marriages, but not against gays.Joshuajohanson 16:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

I just restored the name of Stephan Zakharias, which had been vandalized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.40.204.171 (talk) 10:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning Source

A footnote states that the impetus for forming Affirmation was a 1977 pamphlet anonymously published and "widely distributed" at BYU. Presently this is an undocumented assertion. My search of the Internet did not identify any obvious original references to that pamphlet. However, it did turn up references to a 1982 article by that name ("Homosexuality at BYU," Huffaker, Seventh East Press, 1982). As a BYU student both in 1977 and 1982, I never heard of the pamphlet but did see the Seventh East Press "widely distributed" in 1982 (which doesn't prove anything, but did raise the question). This assertion should be documented via an original source or removed, as a 1982 article could hardly be the impetus for an action in 1977. Kcren (talk) 06:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphaned references in Affirmation: Gay & Lesbian Mormons

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Reference named "Images":

From Timeline of LGBT Mormon history: Anderson, J. Seth (29 May 2017). LGBT Salt Lake: Images of Modern America. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9781467125857.
From Brigham Young University LGBT history: Anderson, J. Seth (29 May 2017). LGBT Salt Lake: Images of Modern America. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9781467125857.

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