Talk:Afro-Asians

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  • Get demographic figures and population for mapping.
  • Remember to maintain a global view.
  • Locate verifiable references
  • Add historical data about ancient Afro-Asian peoples
  • Mention 1-3 notables for each sub-demographic
  • Get illustrations that would help enhance article sections
  • Help develop Afro-Asian historical accounts in the United States of America section by state/region and/or historical era.
    • Add information about East Asian and African descendants in Hawaii.
  • Expand the introduction to the article
  • Enhance intro gallery to better represent global historical and modern Afro-Asians
  • Address African-based cultural influence in Asian media and pop-culture
    • as it relates to Afro-Asian peoples
    • address African/Black stereotypes
  • Address potential influence of influx of progressive African populations in places like China on future Afro-Asian populations in Asia
  • Address the Afro-Asian disposition in contemporary and historical trade relations
  • Add information about Black-Indonesian populations in Fiji, Vanuatu and Papua New Guinea
  • Expand on the concept of Black and African descent and/or identity and the important differences between populations based on recent-direct African lineage, ancient-direct genetic lineage and black phenotype.
  • Expand on how, sometimes, Blasian and Afro-Asian don't always imply the same things culturally (example: Black identified American Blasian, versus Congolese Afro-Asian), and how, even, the term Blasian alone may indicate a slightly different history and social identity per global region.. (example Fijian Blasian, versus South African Blasian)
  • Add information about Afro-Asian populations in Brazil, and Puerto Rico.

Book: A History of Overseas Chinese in Africa to 1911 by Li Anshan[edit]

This seems like an interesting read. In reading the summary and browsing through the pages at Google/books, it seems to cover the global colonial system that dispersed Chinese laborers to the Caribbean, Latin America, the U.S. and parts of Africa like the Gold Coast and Senegal. The book might lead to some evidence of Afro-Asian births and/or populations emerging during those time as some of the laborers, or indentured servants, did not return to China. I've long bee curious of direct Asian ancestry existing among West Africans stemming from the colonial and Sino-African trade eras. This seems like it may be a good read and reference for anyone wanting to contribute to the article. Bab-a-lot (talk) 01:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


About prehistoric people in China[edit]

It is crazy to assume that afro-asian intermarriage took place without any genetic or anthropology evidence. Using only speculations and theories could attract many strong criticism and manipulation by pan-nationalists on Wikipedia. You can't just edit an theory on Wikipedia like that when you lack all the evidence above.

  • There is no DNA evidence or anthropology to support this
  • There is no such identified people or population that exist anywhere today
  • No evidence negroid skeleton only homo-sapiens peking men

FACIAL RECONSTRUCTION OF SHANG

http://www.shakuhachi.com/K-9KChineseFlutes-Nature.html

" A careful study of the bones of 400 individuals removed from more than 300 graves indicates that the Jiahu ethnic group may be identified with the North Asian Mongolian group, and also with the Xiawanggang and Miaodigou groups in Henan Province and the Dawenkou, Yedian and Xixiahou groups that were later found in Shandong Province. The range of male heights was from 170 to 180 cm. In the late Palaeolithic Zhoukoudian Cave,`unspecialized' Mongoloids were described6. By the Yangshao period (3000 BC± 5000 BC)7, the skull measurements are `physically Chinese' and `modern'6. The physical similarity of the Jiahu people to the later Dawenkou (2600 BC±4300 BC) indicates that the Dawenkou might have descended from the Jiahu, following a slow migration along the middle and lower reaches of the Huai river and the Hanshui valley. "

http://donlehmanjr.com/China/china%20chapters/china%20book2/china23.htm China 23: The Shang, Invaders or Indigenous Racial & Cultural continuity, from Yangshao to the Shang.

" Racially the Shang were Mongoloids, like the preceding Yangshao and Longshan cultures. The Shang bones are indistinguishable from the Longshan. The Shang were not invaders from the Middle East. In addition to racial similarities, the Shang also shared cultural similarities with the Yangshao and Longshan cultures. "


92.236.36.173 (talk) 10:59, 5 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Permanlam (talkcontribs)

The fact that you THINK it's crazy is your opinion. I provided a source based on scientific research. I'm re-adding the text. Please discuss further before removing. Bab-a-lot (talk) 08:17, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

chinese men but not women[edit]

why does it only mention chinese men but not women and why it only mentions chinese rather than asians as whole?--98.149.174.254 (talk) 20:10, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Philippines sub-section about the Aeta and Ati peoples[edit]

A previous editor deleted the section. I motion to leave the section and discuss it, first. Bab-a-lot (talk) 08:11, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

The Term Afro-Asian - not strictly a term for modern populations[edit]

I'd like to propose a discussion about the term Afro-Asian including peoples of genetic Afro-asian lineage who evolved outside of inter-race marriage. The article could clarify the difference between the two types of Afro-Asian peoples with an introduction section going into detail about the differences (in identity, etc) between ancient and modern, just as it describes differences based on geographic origin. Those differences could also be clarified in the introduction summary of the article.

Also, I'm re-adding the info about ancient Afro-Asian (non mixed race) populations until this has been discussed and explored further. My intention was NEVER to suggest that such peoples are mixed race, or products of racial or cultural fusion, but more of the genetic implications of being both African and Asian and the RANGE OF DIVERSITY of Afro-Asian peoples, of which they do qualify. Bab-a-lot (talk) 08:22, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Katanga Afro-Japanese: removed sentence concerning the postwar Constitution of Japan[edit]

This sentence is sourced, the video media news interview from a major news network was cited. Let's discuss. Bab-a-lot (talk) 08:37, 3 July 2013 (UTC)



The entire page is poorly written and looks like it has a PRO black POV. notice that the Japanese blasian paragraph omits the fact that some Japanese women was ALSO raped by US occupation forces in the turmoil of post war Japan. If you want to make a legitimate wiki article dont sugarcoat it omitting unsavory facts ..

I also removed the line "Other women raised their child more rural or remote areas as blasian children were sought after and murdered in the city by Japanese officials." ANY evidence of this extraordinary claim ? The video SHOWS UNVERIFIED CLAIMS by residents and hearsay. so wikipedia allows gossip from random videos to be used as fact??? please provide legitimate verified sources to match your extreme claims.

Debunkpropaganda (talk) 03:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

What constitutes verifed claims if not from the numerous victims and offspring, themselves? Are you saying that the survivors of this era have organized under false pretense?
And France 24 International News, the source of this information, is not a gossip site, but a fully reputable news corporation in France. The ENTIRE passage is sourced, as is. Bab-a-lot (talk) 15:27, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Huh?[edit]

There appears to be no rhyme or reason to the #rank in the Population by state table. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 05:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Half Indonesia Half African ( Camerun ) Mohammed Kamga : http://foto-biodata.blogspot.com/2015/03/mohammed-kamga.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.0.236.90 (talk) 12:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC) 

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Bizarre claim[edit]

Under the heading "Japan", is the following statement... "In recent history, the hike in the African-Japanese population has been linked to the American occupation of Japan following the end of World War II, where African-Japanese children were born through either prostitution, or legally binding marriage. "

That seems to be a very strange assertion. Is any person that has a child, while not legally married, "a prostitute" ?Lathamibird (talk) 07:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

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