Talk:Al-Hakim I

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Could someone who is able to read the sources confirm or deny that Al-Hakim's father was his predecessor, Al-Mustansir (Cairo)? The article on the latter describes Al-Hakim as a "kinsman" and rival, which makes it sound like they were not father and son. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 22:02, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

As stated in the Arabic biography of al-Hakim that there is a link to in this article, and as stated in the medieval Arabic sources such as Ibn Taghribardi and al-Maqrizi, this al-Hakim I was Abu al-'Abbas Ahmad, son of Abu 'Ali al-Hasan, son of Abu Bakr, son of al-Hasan, son of 'Ali, son of the 'Abbasid Caliph al-Mustarshid (1092-1135). This makes him a great-great-great grandson of al-Mustarshid and a fifth cousin of the 'Abbasid Caliph al-Mustansir (1192-1242) and the latter's brother al-Mustansir II, the briefly-reigning first Abbasid caliph of Cairo. In my opinion, it is very questionable whether al-Hakim I was a descendant of al-Mustarshid at all, because the connection is so remote that it could easily have been fabricated, and the chain of descent between al-Mustarshid and al-Hakim I consists of four names of persons not otherwise attested as existing. Still, it is impossible to disprove either. — LCalpurniusPiso (talk) 19:43, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

None of the references are fiable.- Al-Hakim I existed? --Jalu (talk) 22:38, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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