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Άνατολικόν [θέμα] and θέμα Άνατολικῶν[edit]

Can anyone explain the relation between these two phrases? I know Άνατολικῶν is plural, genitive. And I think Άνατολικόν is singular. But shouldn't Άνατολικόν and Άνατολικῶνhave the same number form? --Qijiang ok (talk) 21:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

The reason is that the meaning is different in the two cases: Άνατολικόν θέμα means as much as "the Eastern theme", θέμα Άνατολικῶν "the theme of the Easterners". The latter is the original name, but the former also appears in Byz. and modern literature. Constantine 10:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Did Byzantines call it Άνατολικοι? Just like Byzantines said of Ὀπτιμάτοι and θέμα Ὀπτιμάτων. Qijiang ok (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, Άνατολικοί ("the Easterners") would be the plural nominative form of the name. Constantine 14:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
In wiki of Anatolia, it says Greek name of Anatolia is Ἀνατολή, and Anatolia means "East". So, what does Άνατολικόν and Άνατολικῶν mean? Easterner(s)? In this way, Άνατολικόν θέμα means "Easterner theme", θέμα Άνατολικῶν means "theme of Easterners". Am I right? Another question: Are Άνατολικόν [θέμα], θέμα Άνατολικῶν, Άνατολικοί all correct names of this theme for Byzantines? Qijiang ok (talk) 14:05, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
On the meaning, yes, look above. "Άνατολικόν θέμα" would be "Eastern theme". It would not usually be used simply as Άνατολικόν (i.e. without the θέμα). Άνατολικοί would usually refer to the people and/or the army of the theme, rather than the theme itself. Constantine 15:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

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